DAguyLS

i've got a 93 ex, sportline springs and unfourtunately tokico blue's. My rear ride height isn't exactly equal on both sides my driverside is about an inch and a half lower than the rear passenger. Anyone know what could cause this?

and "no" i don't have anything in my trunk making the difference.

thanks

DAguyLS

bump.....anyone?

DAguyLS

noone has ever had this happen or known someone with this annoyance <sp?

SleepnCiViC

typical problem w/ lowering spring my driver side sits lwoer on my coupe. thats why im gettin coilovers

DAguyLS

i've heard of it being called the "gangsta lean" i guess i'll just have to live with it. I'm getting under my civic tomorrow whenever my mechanic isn't busy. Maybe one of the springs isn't set in correctly. <<<(but wouldn't that fix itself while i'm driving????

blackeg

i hate to say it, but i think its normal. my car is the exact same way( sits about 1/2 inch higher on pass side). it was like that with stock suspension and my aftermarket suspension. ive also heard of a few other people having the same problem. i think the only remedy is coilovers, which i dont have money for at the present time. it sucks too cause there is just enough wheelgap on my rear pass. tire to **** me off


see what i mean. that looks like ****- and its supposed to be dropped 2.5 inches. for reference, its right on the border of tucking tire on the front drivers side

BauleyCivic

Common problem with stock sus and lowering springs...coilovers are the ONLY way to go

8o8da9speed

haha yah, same problem with my cuz's sisters' si, which we lowered on integra drop springs...looks dope all around no fender gap than passenger rear there is one finger...lol...o0o wells

EK45VTi

Same here!!!

Pass side has a 3 finger gap and drivers has 2.5 finger gap...

New shocks or coilovers may do the job for you...

I don't mind that problem cos it is really not a problem because majority of time, you drive alone in your car and it is normally that the drivers side will sag a bit more than the pass side...

I've seen cars that are much more expensive than Civic with that gap problem... (BMW 325iX coupe, Passat)...

But if you are really **** about your car, just go with new coilovers or just use some aftermarket shocks... here were I live, aftermarket shocks go for about $80 a piece (Monroe, Sachs, KYB - very reliable shock makers)

s1ngle

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i just wanna know what the cause of that is!!!

sohcvtec1995

it is just the suspension sagging. You are alwaysdriving on the left side of the car, so the weight of your body will put more strain on the left side of the car.

toadolson

Same with the old neuspeed spring i had on the car. Front drivers side was in a mild weak which made it worst for the rear of the car. alot more on the passengers side.

s1ngle

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see, that doesnt make sense. Theyre new springs, so according to that theory it WOULDNT still sag. Even with me NOT in the car, it still sagged after i got new springs.

sceg

my 1st set up was suspension techniques springs and i never had this problem (ground control now ). the only thing i can think of is to make sure the end of the spring is seated corectly, rotate them until the end of the spring stops in the notch in the lower cup (clockwise i think). i also matched up the indention in the upper cup (the rubber peice....) with the end of the spring....... just a thought.

and there are cheap *** coilovers out there going for as little as $120, dont even ask me about the quality of those though.......

ground control=

edit: and doesnt eibach have a warranty against sagging?

s1ngle

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i dont think it has to do with the springs sagging. i think its wear on the suspension, with stock springs it sags, and kinda wears the bushings so that they tend to be at one position. Even lowered, i think the bushing wear causes it. I say this because when i took off my shocks/springs, the passenger rear trailing arm hung lower than the drivers side. just a thought.

spyderracing

It's not so much the springs that provide all the support. A lot of it is on the piston rod, and the shock itself. I think the spring is more of a secondary support, and a way to distribute the weight over a larger surface area. The top of the shock's piston rod is smaller than a dime. Imagine supporting your cars weight on 4 spots that total up to the surface area of a half dollar.

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Christ people. A shock provides no support to the suspension. It's called a damper, because it's job is to dampen the rebound forces of the spring. In the absence of frition and other losses, a springs rebound would look like a sine wave and continue infinitely, the damper absorbs these forces to return the spring to rest. That's why you see a car's wheel bouncing up and down while driving with a blown shock.

The spring supports the car and sets the ride height. Hondas tend to lean to the left with springs, period. They also tend to look lower in the back than in the front. I've made this same post about 10 times already.

Also, if your springs / suspension 'sag' or 'settle' it means you bought $*tty springs. Eibachs and H&R come 'set' from the factory, so there's no settling or sagging after installation.

s1ngle

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chill out there killer, you explained nothing. and dont generalize "people" when ONE person says something incorrect. I know very well that the shock only dampens. Thats why you can compress a shock easily with your own body weight.

I also got new shocks, so that wouldnt explain it.

And saying "Hondas tend to lean to the left with springs, period". So youre just another person that doesnt have a clue.

b18bme

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Christ people. A shock provides no support to the suspension. It's called a damper, because it's job is to dampen the rebound forces of the spring. In the absence of frition and other losses, a springs rebound would look like a sine wave and continue infinitely, the damper absorbs these forces to return the spring to rest. That's why you see a car's wheel bouncing up and down while driving with a blown shock.

The spring supports the car and sets the ride height. Hondas tend to lean to the left with springs, period. They also tend to look lower in the back than in the front. I've made this same post about 10 times already.

Also, if your springs / suspension 'sag' or 'settle' it means you bought $*tty springs. Eibachs and H&R come 'set' from the factory, so there's no settling or sagging after installation.

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agreed my car always leaned to the left and the rear always sat lower then the front so I think he does know what he is talking about.

Synergy001

what we did back in '95 was cut a coil off. but i dont think u want to do that, although the ride was still stiff.

SL0WEGG

my car is like that also. my driver side is half an inch lower than my pass side. i think it might be because it doesnt settle properly. since im always by myself and the weight is on the driver side. so maybe that could be why

AutoXer

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I also got new shocks, so that wouldnt explain it.

"Hondas tend to lean to the left with springs, period".
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Yes, you're right, new shocks doesn't explain it; the weight distribution of the car does. Since the spring rates and lengths are the same for the left and right side of the car, a weight inbalance on the left side causes the Honda 'gangsta lean'. This can be compensated for by a coilover suspension by being able to adjust the ride height from side to side. Since this was mentioned in multiple posts above, I didn't think it was nescesary to explain. I was just trying to clear up the missinformation that was going on towards the end of the thread.


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by s1ngle &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you explained nothing. and dont generalize "people" when ONE person says something incorrect. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I thought I had, I was trying to give a little suspension theory in laimens terms; and there were quite a few comments that had various forms of missinformation. I didn't mean to flame at all, but this question has been seeming to come up just about every day for the last few weeks.


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So youre just another person that doesnt have a clue.
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Sorry you feel that way. I could give you my credentials if you'd like, but the point is moot anyway. You can check all my other posts, I try to be informative and as helpful an H-T member as possible; but suspension and vehicle dynamics was one of my major concentrations in school, and it's probably one of the least understood things for most enthusiasts, so it gets a little frustrating having to make the same post over and over.

s1ngle

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hey no prob man, didnt mean to snap at you.

its all good, thanks for the info

whats your degree in school?