singledout94

So here's the situation ... I got ahold of a fresh type r head a few months back in a trade so i went and bought a b16a block complete for like 75 bucks dirt cheap it needs to be rebuilt hone rings bearings whole nine so its been sitting till I get some time and figure out what I want to do with it.. In the meantime I'm putting a motor in this kids car who has no money so hes giving me an ef hatch and a b18b1 freshly built for geting his ek running .Heres my dilemma i now have a complete ls, so should i put the type r head on the ls block and go ls vtec or should i build the b16 and put the type r head on that? o i have a 94 del sol that the motor would go in, and the ef hatch needs to much work to get street legal so im giving it to my little brother as a project. So ls vtec or b16 type r head is where im stuck...Ideas pros and cons would be awesome.Thank you

singledout94

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GranDaddyPurp

ls vtec would be better imo. the b16 stroke is no good to me. i like having some torque so that i can have fun in the lower and mid rpm range.

dpcgtp

iTrader: (2)

Do the Ls/vtec. Get the golden eagle kit

Sr420Det

Id go ls/vtec cause u already have that block in good condition

singledout94

Good **** that's what I was leaning towards but now what do I do with the b16 block?

Sr420Det

sell it of course....or u could just save it for when u blow up the ls block haha

drkstrs24

give it to your lil bro for the ef hatch

300whpej

trade the b16 and ls blocks, for a running gsr, then use the itr head...strong poorman's arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh

LS-turboner

yeah, do a compression check on that ls, if its healthy runner, throw the vtec head on it for the sol. b16s have no tq. give it to your bro, so he can build a b16 ef. i wish a had a cool brother like that.

b20hatchek

ls/v my friend and the rest what he said^

98civdx

Sell the b16, save your pennies and buy yourself a gsr block.
Build it, throw the type r head on, and then put it in the del sol.

Ls/vtecs are great and will run a long time if they are built correctly.

singledout94

Awesome feedback thanks guys. So side note now just opened my own shop names better B ha , any way, the wife drives an eg 4 door primer black on steelies lx nothing done bone stock.... Made the mistake of taking her to a car show now she wants it champ white slamed on pink jmags and a b16, but wants to stay automatic. So build the block i have, buy a b16 head bolt it up to an auto ls trans run a stock p28 auto ecu? "5 SPEED IS NOT AN OPTION!" <-----wife. Sound good? any problems you guys think ill run into. Open to all advice. Thanks again

meadams314

if you love your wife, buy a b20 block and gsr (or b16) VTEC head and stuff it in there with a matching B20 automatic tranny... lol

Libertariat

If she wants an auto just get a b20 with a b20 trans.

I suppose an LS with an LS trans would work too. Not sure of the major differences in ease of install or mileage. If you're going to go auto I'd suggest just getting whichever engine you find in better condition. Either should be inexpensive.

300whpej

you should ball out and import an auto b16 trans from like dubai or somewhere

94EG8

You have to run an integra ECU + the Integra TCM that goes with it, civics didn't have a seperate TCM and wont control the automatic tranny. About the only potentially realistic automatic B-series swap is going to be a basic LS swap or B20 swap with LS tranny. Even then theres a lot of wiring due to wiring up the TCM (something like 40 wires IIRC that have to be run) If you really wanted to spend money on it you could get the OBD1 JDM B18C out of an Si-Vtec/SiR-G with matching TCM and automatic tranny.

5 speed is normally the only option. Often due to mounts, clearance issues and wiring, in this case you're kinda lucky in that there are factory mounts, the wiring issues remain though.

roadsqueegy95

You should sell me the b16 block!

singledout94

wow i knew auto trans' were a pain in the *** but i never got into them... Thanks for the heads up! I woulda dove into that blindly lol. So now ill put the y8 that i have sitting around, in her car and tell her its a b16 hahahaha shell never know but again thanks for the heads up appreciate it.

Libertariat

Auto is really a waste of time imo. Teach her how to drive a stick she'll like it better anyway.

vtec25

me and a friend of mine did this once blindly for his girl and yeah it wont rev past 2k rpm or shift till u install the teggy TCM. But afterwards it was pretty cool to have a auto LS and it was peppy too. I wouldnt do it with a ls/v though cuz i hear that honda auto trannys cant really hold power. meaning they break faster wit power.