beesting00si

would type r cams be a plus?

duefuss

yes they would not much but they have a longer lift and duration than the B16 cams and the vtec lobes are more aggressive, if your going to spend 350 on ITR cams why not go skunk2 stage 2 cams?? the ITR cams are equivelant to a mild stage 1

red_crx

iTrader: (2)

With stage 2's he will more than likely need to upgrade springs/retainers..plus he would need more compression to benefit from the stage 2's

Rok_Stok

The CTR and ITR have upgraded valve springs over the stock B16A2 to begin with. Using CTR cams will net you gain, but personally, if I had a B16 I would get a much heftier set of cams and valvetrain. Make your B16A2 eat a B16B. For quick compression get a Mugen head gasket (or spoon but I'd get the mugen) and have the head milled a few thousanths, if you don't want to swap pistons. Remember that if you mill the head you'll want to retard cam timing a couple of degrees, then advance ignition timing by a few degrees. Haha, I'm getting a little ahead of the topic here.

But if you're truly set on using Type-R cams in your stock B16A2, yes you will get gains, just remember the stock valvetrain's limits.

duefuss

<<<<<<<<running skunk2 stage 2 cams in JDM B16 stock valve train no prob valves are not floating at high rpm....

reaction360

with the lack of torque in a b16, you would gain from upgrading the valve train and revving the **** out of it with a good set of cams.

you also gotta consider what you do with the car. are you keeping it na? going turbo? etc....

luvmihatch

iTrader: (3)

i upgraded my gsr valve train to type r... and i have the 2001 jdm type r cams. and wow they are a big differance. i love it.. my car put down 194 on a stock bottom end withteh type r valve train skunk 2 intake mani hytech headerinjectors and good tune..

i def recomend it..

underb00steg6

iTrader: (2)

looks like a nice set up you have

beesting00si

i do plan on turbo later on down the road, i jus want some mild horsepower gain for now

beesting00si

so ITR cams are not a bad idea haha
from what everyones saying i should notice somewhat of a difference?
now if those cams are in, where the vtec kicks in, would that be affected?
im sorry ive only had my honda for like 5 months haha and i dont know much about it

B.

I only run the exhaust cam from the ITR. The lobes aren't much different on the intake side from the b16a2's

Juan_Mitosis

Isn't it all the way around dude? The exhaust side is identical, and the intake side is what is more aggresive on Type R?

mikeycivic

the intake is more aggressive not the exhaust cam

z6hatchboy

x2

EFRue57

x3

this is what we put in both my brother's ls/vtec and a gsr motor and did have noticable gains. good way to do a reliable upgrade.

Rok_Stok

x4

Oh wait a minute, what's up with this?

Measured with 0mm of lift
Civic Si(1999 Spec)
Int-265 dur. / 10.5mm lift
Exh-267 dur. / 9.6mm lift


Civic Type-R And Integra Type-R(Integra Type R 2000/01 Spec)
Int-278 dur. / 11.5mm lift
Exh-280 dur. / 10.5mm lift

robfrmny21

when your valve floats you will know cuz its gonna drop a valve. your gonna run out of luck soon seen it be4 ... you will drop it on the exhaust side

Christopherian1982

So what you guys are saying is, its better to just swap out the intake cam since all the power is on that cam?

B.

yes you're completely correct. My mistake, I was all 420'd up when i made that post LOL. sorry for the confusion.

mikeycivic

If you want to do it right, find yourself a ITR/CTR valvetrain and either the 99-00 itr cams or a set of ctr cams. If you find just an intake cam that should be good too since the exhaust cams are so close that the gains arent really noticeable.

Christopherian1982

Are there any down side to just putting a intake cam without changing out the valvetrain. I wonder cause im always a thumbs up for power. And I have a B16 with a greddy turbo setup. Lemme know what you guys think?

Christopherian1982

?????

Rok_Stok

You can, and you will have a slightly higher powerband, but don't rev past the stock valvetrain's limits, or what the stock rev limiter was.

Christopherian1982

how do you know when you reach the stock valvetrain limit?

Christopherian1982

are you talking about red line limit.