to turbo or not to turbo
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to turbo or not to turbo
i have a 96 ex wit d16y8 it just hit 180k im wondering if i should rebuild first then turbo or turbo then rebuild. the thing is if i turbo first itll take a while before i can rebuild and if i rebuild itll be a while before i can turbo, or if anyone knows where i can score a b18 or 16 in the uk ill just do a swap.
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you should do a swap before anything, but if you wanna stick with a d then I would build the internals first.
if you don't want to then just boost but keep the psi low and get a good tune, but you'll still be slow ;p. swaped b series will prolly beat you.
swap b motor, then boost later.
build internals then make real power
or
boost on low psi and make 160whp ;p
have fun
if you don't want to then just boost but keep the psi low and get a good tune, but you'll still be slow ;p. swaped b series will prolly beat you.
swap b motor, then boost later.
build internals then make real power
or
boost on low psi and make 160whp ;p
have fun
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If your D is healthy, then boost is a no-brainer; however, if it isn't, you may want to either fix it, swap in another D or swap something else entirely. A boosted D and a B series swap cost about the same, but you'll make 60+ more whp with a turbo D over the B swap...
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i would definetly rebuild or do a swap, you dont wnat to turbo it and then 2 weeks later your engine is blown, do a b18 swap or b16 you'll have a little more power then your d16 swap
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If i was in your situation with a questionable engine, i would immediately buy a Vitara/ Tuner Toys setup and build the D. After that, get your normal, run-of-the-mill turbo setup. The bottom end build (< $1000) will support 400whp. The two items combined cost a little more than a swap, but make quite a bit more power.
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jump on the B series bandwagon. Its a swap a monkey without hands could do, dont challenge yourself at all.
IMO D series are only good if your going to build them right, ive seen too many people decide theyre going to turbo a single cam with 210k on the clock, and not even know if its gunna last an hour.
OP, if your going to boost do it once and do it right.
IMO D series are only good if your going to build them right, ive seen too many people decide theyre going to turbo a single cam with 210k on the clock, and not even know if its gunna last an hour.
OP, if your going to boost do it once and do it right.
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swap it to a b series in the long run you will come out better.. if later down the road u build u b series to all motor or turbo u will gain more powerthan a d series all day besides a b seiers motor is the way to go i just swapped my GSR into a 97 ex and it gos pretty good
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ok so you got me sold on the swap. but heres tha thing i live in the uk and the place i feel comfortable with buying from is hmotors ive heard good things about them. if anyone have a b series for sale ill be ready to buy one in the may time frame.
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so your around 112,000 miles or did you already convert your kilometers to miles in your original post?
Regardless you need to decide what the car will be used for
No use in building a B series then boosting it, if you just want something a little more peppy
To be on the safe side I would do a compression/leak down test on your y8 and see what you get.
If your levels are normal then I would just replace the timing belt/water pump, buy a upper and lower gasket kit and replace all of those as well
If you choose to keep and boost the d series
You can safely boost a healthy stock d series
6-10 psi is all I would go though
But even then you should not look at PSI but more so whp
I want to say the stock y8 is good up to 220whp before you really chance throwing a rod. Have your clutch checked also because on 9lbs stock y8 with a t3/t04e .57trim
I made 230 at the wheels on 9lbs
But the clutch couldn't handle that so daily driven at 6lbs and its fine
It really is your call and if the motors are harder to come by in the UK then I would just turbo the D
Because if you do buy a motor shipping will be OUTRAGEOUS to ship internationally.
Trust me on that one
Regardless you need to decide what the car will be used for
No use in building a B series then boosting it, if you just want something a little more peppy
To be on the safe side I would do a compression/leak down test on your y8 and see what you get.
If your levels are normal then I would just replace the timing belt/water pump, buy a upper and lower gasket kit and replace all of those as well
If you choose to keep and boost the d series
You can safely boost a healthy stock d series
6-10 psi is all I would go though
But even then you should not look at PSI but more so whp
I want to say the stock y8 is good up to 220whp before you really chance throwing a rod. Have your clutch checked also because on 9lbs stock y8 with a t3/t04e .57trim
I made 230 at the wheels on 9lbs
But the clutch couldn't handle that so daily driven at 6lbs and its fine
It really is your call and if the motors are harder to come by in the UK then I would just turbo the D
Because if you do buy a motor shipping will be OUTRAGEOUS to ship internationally.
Trust me on that one
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man that was the best answer of the post i think ima just try yours and and boost. im not lookin at goin to the track or anything its really just a daily driver that i take alittle pride. so ill consider that or the rebuild kit either way sounds good.
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if your at 180k miles then I would do both compression and leak down test
make sure all your coolant lines are healthy etc
You will not have to upgrade your ignition system
your fuel pump
or anything of that nature
just go with a t3 or something of the sort and 6-8 lbs will give you good spool up rate on a smaller turbo and it will be EFFICIENT for street use
Just have your engine looked over
don't forget to swap your pumps and belts as well
good luck man
feel free to PM me with any other questions
https://honda-tech.com/forums/forced-induction-16/%2A%2A%2Aforced-induction-forum-faq%2A%2A%2A-1024174/
also check out the F/I FAQ thread
Lots of good stuff here
http://beesandgoats.com/boostfaq/g2icturbo.html
that is one of the best over all write ups on turbo's
read it
twice
make sure all your coolant lines are healthy etc
You will not have to upgrade your ignition system
your fuel pump
or anything of that nature
just go with a t3 or something of the sort and 6-8 lbs will give you good spool up rate on a smaller turbo and it will be EFFICIENT for street use
Just have your engine looked over
don't forget to swap your pumps and belts as well
good luck man
feel free to PM me with any other questions
https://honda-tech.com/forums/forced-induction-16/%2A%2A%2Aforced-induction-forum-faq%2A%2A%2A-1024174/
also check out the F/I FAQ thread
Lots of good stuff here
http://beesandgoats.com/boostfaq/g2icturbo.html
that is one of the best over all write ups on turbo's
read it
twice
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itll be in the may to june time period cause ill in iraq so when i get back is when ill be doin this. do you recommend any setups that are reliable. im tryin to get priced so ill know how much i need to save when i get there.
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There are tons of turbo kits which you may want to look into
Don't listen to anybody that says you can do your build for under 1000 USD
because it will not happen
It has been done but that is with luck which most of us don't have
You get what you pay for
Just keep that in mind when looking at kits and items
I honestly have no idea what turbo kits go for because I am currently in the process of piecing mine together
Read those links and do a lot of research before buying anything
Ill see what I can find as for turbo kits go
Don't listen to anybody that says you can do your build for under 1000 USD
because it will not happen
It has been done but that is with luck which most of us don't have
You get what you pay for
Just keep that in mind when looking at kits and items
I honestly have no idea what turbo kits go for because I am currently in the process of piecing mine together
Read those links and do a lot of research before buying anything
Ill see what I can find as for turbo kits go
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I agree with people that B's are better. You have more displacement which can spool a larger turbo sooner, but if you're on a strict budget, your D is more than capable of making some great power
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