97spooncivic

im using my car for daily driving, some canyon runs, and slight track use, and strip use. do you think turboing my y7/y8 mini me will perform as good if not better than a b 16 or gsr.

im gonna run a .42/.48 turbo, crome tuning, with a smic, 2.5 inch downpipe, spoolin manifold...

NZDelsoldude

I believe it would. Depends on how much boost you run, but I'm sure even 6 pounds would give you more horses and torque. Have you tried searching? i'm sure i've seen a few similar threads on hear. People have mixed opinions on the subject usually. Depending wether your a B or D series fan.

WhaznSiR

im acutally planning on turbo'ing my y8 for track. Not there yet, but getting close.

97spooncivic

yea i searched. i im thinking about dropping some vitara pistons in my block actually. will i have to do any major work to the block besides dropping in new pistons and rods to boost more or no?

NZDelsoldude

It mostly comes down to tuning, but i'm going to get some ARP head studs before I boost, thats for sure. Look through some of the ninja posts. Just search for d16 turbo and there is a mountain of information.

Integra_drk

youd definately have more power, no ques about that. If tuned right, itd be much better that a n/a b series.

Fallen86

yup take it from me i'm boosting 6lbs on my d16y7 and my friend with a 00 si cant keep up. but NA is cool in its own way. turbo = cheap power

InfiniteVTEC

If you wanna boost bigger than 9PSI thats when you need to upgrade pistons, rods, sleeves, ARP head studs, and fuel pump.

M2nR

im pushing 11psi on my Y8... it can take a stock type S

turbo

PinkMaggit

vitara pistons, eagle rods, arp rod and head bolts. boost that biatch 10+ w/ a tuning program. vafc is ok but youll see bigger gains from an odb1 conversion.

but remember to price it out.

injectors
pump
pistons
rods
bolts
possibly oil or water pumps
tuning software + turbo parts + motor

If you have the stock y7 tranny buy a y8 tranny now.
Before you do anything else.

InfiniteVTEC

Honda oil pumps are one of the best in the auto industry, well enough to support 300whp on a d16Y8

WhaznSiR

would a zc block & y8 head be faster than a d16y8?

Stop the Beast

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 97spooncivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im using my car for daily driving, some canyon runs, and slight track use, and strip use. do you think turboing my y7/y8 mini me will perform as good if not better than a b 16 or gsr.

im gonna run a .42/.48 turbo, crome tuning, with a smic, 2.5 inch downpipe, spoolin manifold...</TD></TR></TABLE>

That is a straight t3 turbo?

iLOVEmyEMone

i ran this t3/t4 d16 in a 2000 civic and i have a 2000 si and i had 2 people in the car and lost on a roll by a fender pretty quick and cheap!

my mods
intake
header
test pipe

SkySolGra

yea.. my friend had a sohc turbo.. that shyt is quick!! like they've been saying.. it will spank most b's when tuned correctly

Hybrid96EK

Either everyone in here runs some REAL crappy turbo setups or skips out on the tuning completly. All this talk about how you can take out a stock 99 Si. Whoooopty! 99-00 Si's are slow as *****. Then we have the "I can take out a stock Type S", joy, you beat a high 14 second car. Seriously people, a properly setup turbo D should EASILY be in the mid 13's.... so why are we comparing these things to 15 second cars like its some kind of accomplishment?

racerpat94

i think the main argument was that a cheap, turbo d16 could take a 2000 si. which basically says that the turbo d16 would be a better choice than a expensive engine swap for his power goals. many people underestimate the D. they can be made into pretty impressive engines.

check out d-series.org if you want to see what a D can really do. (theres a 450+hp D in there somewhere)

97spooncivic

thanks for the info guys, how much does it cost for someone to tune your motor? i wanna get crome or hondata whichever i find that is cheaper. do you know any estimate of price?

haveaniceday

the decision should be based on .. how much power do you want? and where do you wanna stop ..


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i mean i really respect that.. the time, money, and effort put into it .. but the money he/she put into the motor he could of easliy got a B swap .. i just believe if your looking for anything above 300whp you should really look into swapping a B ..

Hybrid96EK

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 97spooncivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thanks for the info guys, how much does it cost for someone to tune your motor? i wanna get crome or hondata whichever i find that is cheaper. do you know any estimate of price?</TD></TR></TABLE>

You are in Cali. I am in the Sacramento are and tune with Crome pro. I have all the crap. I usually charge $80.

Hybrid96EK

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And this right here is the main motivation people use when building up a D series. Everyone thinks they suck. Everyone jumps the B series bandwagon...

ABK

Vitara pistons will make your car sound like diesel. They create too much clearance between cylinder walls and pistons. Plus they are full floating.

Boost is nice, but you will have issues if you plan on running it at the track (especially slow corners). Boost creep and instant torque is going to make it impossible to go thru those corners. Turbo is nice for the strip though. If you still decide to boost it, invest some money into LSD (maybe OBX cheap, but I heard people are having issues with splines twisting and not letting the axles come back out) it will greatly improve launching and the corner exits.

Hybrid96EK

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ABK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Vitara pistons will make your car sound like diesel. They create too much clearance between cylinder walls and pistons. Plus they are full floating.

Boost is nice, but you will have issues if you plan on running it at the track (especially slow corners). Boost creep and instant torque is going to make it impossible to go thru those corners. Turbo is nice for the strip though. If you still decide to boost it, invest some money into LSD (maybe OBX cheap, but I heard people are having issues with splines twisting and not letting the axles come back out) it will greatly improve launching and the corner exits.</TD></TR></TABLE>

That "issue" was resolved with the second generation OBX LSD's.

haveaniceday

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And this right here is the main motivation people use when building up a D series. Everyone thinks they suck. Everyone jumps the B series bandwagon... </TD></TR></TABLE>

im kinda confused by this comment .. im not hating on Ds by no means (points to sig) i myself am in the middle of my build up .. 220-250whp will fit my needs very well and is still a very streetable car .. and thats what i want .. i was just trying to explain the situation ..

WhaznSiR

Same here