torque mount problem (help)
07-30-2003, 05:07 PM
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torque mount problem (help)
well a couple months ago i installed the es mount inserts in all the mounts the thing is the torque mount next to the timing belt one of the bolts got stripped,so my problem now is that the bolt fell and i tried putting in a 7/16 bolt in it to try to see if it rethreaded but it didn't so now i'm asking if anyone has had this problem if so how do i fix it or do i leave it like this and thanks
07-30-2003, 05:55 PM
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Re: torque mount problem (singlecam screamer)
well a couple months ago i installed the es mount inserts in all the mounts. The thing is the torque mount next to the timing belt one of the bolts got stripped. So my problem now is that the bolt fell and i tried putting in a 7/16 bolt in it to try to see if it rethreaded, but it didn't so now i'm asking if anyone has had this problem. If so how do i fix it or do i leave it like this and thanks.
i tried to fix it to make it easier to read. you got any pics of the problem man?
i tried to fix it to make it easier to read. you got any pics of the problem man?
07-30-2003, 06:04 PM
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Re: torque mount problem (singlecam screamer)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by singlecam screamer »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thanks guys i was just in a little hurry i had to take a crap ,and i'll probably end up doing that jv</TD></TR></TABLE>
Way too much info man.
but yes drill and tap.
Way too much info man.
but yes drill and tap.
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07-30-2003, 06:10 PM
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Re: torque mount problem (singlecam screamer)
Atleast you didn't strip out 2 of 3 upper tranny mount holes like i did. 
Torque bolts by hand my friends, or you'll be drilling and tapping like me and Rudy...
Torque bolts by hand my friends, or you'll be drilling and tapping like me and Rudy...
07-30-2003, 06:13 PM
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Re: torque mount problem (JV)
those are CRAZY fine threads... and it goes into the frame... I don't know that:
A. you could find a tap set that has that fine of a thread
B. that the stock hole will support re-tapping...
I don't know either way but it seems to me like those will be pretty hard to re-tap... properly at least.
A. you could find a tap set that has that fine of a thread
B. that the stock hole will support re-tapping...
I don't know either way but it seems to me like those will be pretty hard to re-tap... properly at least.
07-30-2003, 06:21 PM
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Re: torque mount problem (NonovUrbizniz)
yeah my freind told me that retapping it wouldn't be a good idea,but i don't know if i should leave as it is or try retapping it
07-30-2003, 06:21 PM
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Re: torque mount problem (NonovUrbizniz)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NonovUrbizniz »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">those are CRAZY fine threads... and it goes into the frame... I don't know that:
A. you could find a tap set that has that fine of a thread
B. that the stock hole will support re-tapping...
I don't know either way but it seems to me like those will be pretty hard to re-tap... properly at least.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You have to drill for a slightly larger bolt anyway, so thread pitch won't really matter. He will have one odd bolt out of 4...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by singlecam screamer »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how did it work out for you jv
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It's fixed now. I just chalk it up as a learning experience.
A. you could find a tap set that has that fine of a thread
B. that the stock hole will support re-tapping...
I don't know either way but it seems to me like those will be pretty hard to re-tap... properly at least.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You have to drill for a slightly larger bolt anyway, so thread pitch won't really matter. He will have one odd bolt out of 4...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by singlecam screamer »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how did it work out for you jv
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It's fixed now. I just chalk it up as a learning experience.
07-30-2003, 06:50 PM
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Re: torque mount problem (JV)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JV »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
You have to drill for a slightly larger bolt anyway, so thread pitch won't really matter. He will have one odd bolt out of 4...
Yeah I know... my point was that once you re-drill you have already opened it up too much... then beyond that you will not get the same grip force with larger spaced threads.
It's fixed now. I just chalk it up as a learning experience. </TD></TR></TABLE>
You have to drill for a slightly larger bolt anyway, so thread pitch won't really matter. He will have one odd bolt out of 4...
Yeah I know... my point was that once you re-drill you have already opened it up too much... then beyond that you will not get the same grip force with larger spaced threads.
It's fixed now. I just chalk it up as a learning experience.
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07-30-2003, 07:03 PM
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Re: torque mount problem (NonovUrbizniz)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NonovUrbizniz »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">my point was that once you re-drill you have already opened it up too much... then beyond that you will not get the same grip force with larger spaced threads.
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What would you do to fix this problem?
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What would you do to fix this problem?
07-30-2003, 07:06 PM
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Re: torque mount problem (JV)
I'm not expressing a solution I'm expressing concern...
I would not know how to nor would I attempt to "fix" this problem by blindly re-tapping a VERY specificaly formed and threaded hole...
I would not know how to nor would I attempt to "fix" this problem by blindly re-tapping a VERY specificaly formed and threaded hole...
07-30-2003, 07:17 PM
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Re: torque mount problem (NonovUrbizniz)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NonovUrbizniz »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm not expressing a solution I'm expressing concern...
I would not know how to nor would I attempt to "fix" this problem by blindly re-tapping a VERY specificaly formed and threaded hole...</TD></TR></TABLE>
I think you are making too much out of the whole thread pitch/hole size deal.
What would be a worst case scenario? The bolt "pulls out". You'll be no worse off then before.
I'd rather drill and tap, then run no bolt at all. I'm pretty confident it will hold considering i have done it to an aluminum tranny casing with excellent results.
I would not know how to nor would I attempt to "fix" this problem by blindly re-tapping a VERY specificaly formed and threaded hole...</TD></TR></TABLE>
I think you are making too much out of the whole thread pitch/hole size deal.
What would be a worst case scenario? The bolt "pulls out". You'll be no worse off then before.
I'd rather drill and tap, then run no bolt at all. I'm pretty confident it will hold considering i have done it to an aluminum tranny casing with excellent results.
07-30-2003, 07:21 PM
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Re: torque mount problem (JV)
well...
A. aluminum is soft and easy to tap.
B. tranny cases (depending on the hole) don't really have that much stress on them.
C. the torque mount is just about the MOST stressed mount.
D. The steel used for motor mount holes is VERY strong... and it would be my guess that barring him being a body builder it will be all but impossible to get a drill or a tap to do ANYTHING to it.
Again I'm not saying that it's something to leave alone... I'm saying it may be one of VERY few things that I'd bring to a dealer (because they are legally responsible for the safety of the solution). And have probobly had experience with it in the past.
A. aluminum is soft and easy to tap.
B. tranny cases (depending on the hole) don't really have that much stress on them.
C. the torque mount is just about the MOST stressed mount.
D. The steel used for motor mount holes is VERY strong... and it would be my guess that barring him being a body builder it will be all but impossible to get a drill or a tap to do ANYTHING to it.
Again I'm not saying that it's something to leave alone... I'm saying it may be one of VERY few things that I'd bring to a dealer (because they are legally responsible for the safety of the solution). And have probobly had experience with it in the past.
07-30-2003, 07:48 PM
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Re: torque mount problem (NonovUrbizniz)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NonovUrbizniz »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well...
A. aluminum is soft
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My point exactly.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NonovUrbizniz »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well...
B. tranny cases (depending on the hole) don't really have that much stress on them.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I can't confirm or deny this.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NonovUrbizniz »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well...
C. the torque mount is just about the MOST stressed mount.
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Agreed
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NonovUrbizniz »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
D. The steel used for motor mount holes is VERY strong... and it would be my guess that barring him being a body builder it will be all but impossible to get a drill or a tap to do ANYTHING to it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
He stripped it didn't he?
I'm all for learning new things. If someone knows a better way of fixing this, please share... 
A. aluminum is soft
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My point exactly.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NonovUrbizniz »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well...
B. tranny cases (depending on the hole) don't really have that much stress on them.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I can't confirm or deny this.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NonovUrbizniz »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well...
C. the torque mount is just about the MOST stressed mount.
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Agreed
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NonovUrbizniz »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
D. The steel used for motor mount holes is VERY strong... and it would be my guess that barring him being a body builder it will be all but impossible to get a drill or a tap to do ANYTHING to it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
He stripped it didn't he?
I'm all for learning new things. If someone knows a better way of fixing this, please share...
02-23-2005, 11:53 AM
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Re: torque mount problem (singlecam screamer)
bump, i know this is an old topic, but i had the same problem, i wag going to try to weld the mount to the frame
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