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Old 11-09-2004, 01:00 PM
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Well my car is not really that low, but people who have lowered there cars to much have probly run into the same problem.

I am running 16in rims and 215/45 series tires, and when I hit a hard bump at speeds it pushes my tires up enough in my front fender wells to slice my tires on the seem under the fender liner. The slashes are not to bad right now because they are fairly new tires and I don't hit big *** bumps all the time. The first time I noticed though was the last time I was out a Willow Springs and I think I will be back out there soon.

So I want to here what other people have done to take care of this issue. Other than raising the car what are my options? The car handles great and I really do not want to change anything. I am thinking I am going to just have to pull out the BFH and bend that **** back toward the fender well, but I am not sure if this will weaken or break anything of importance. So let me here what you have to say?

and if it matters this is on a 99 EK hatch...
Old 11-09-2004, 01:02 PM
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Default Re: (too LOw ?) slicing tires... (Jon V)

There are tools that are designed to "roll" the fender. Or, you can use a bat.....
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or you can get smaller tires
Old 11-09-2004, 01:31 PM
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I'm not talkin about the fenders. inside (behind) the fenders, under the fender liner there is a crease or something that sticks down almost like a knife edge. It slices the midle of my tires not the outsides.
Old 11-09-2004, 01:33 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SleepyCx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">or you can get smaller tires</TD></TR></TABLE>

These are the comments that I don't need. If you are ignorant, or you just can't read don't bother posting...

P.S. my fenders are already rolled...
Old 11-09-2004, 01:35 PM
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Take out the fender lining then.
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how about upping shock damping
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pics might help
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I had to do this to fit 26" slicks on my hatch.

I used a plasma cutter to cut the pinch weld out. then seam welded it with a cheapie mig welder.

not an easy task, but worked fine for me.

BTW: I tried the hammer idea first, but it wasnt really as easy as you might think.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DOHC4life &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Take out the fender lining then. </TD></TR></TABLE>

U r an idiot...

I will try to get pictures tonight ut I don't have any way of osting them...

upping the dampening is on the list of things to do, but I need something that will atleast help in the mean time.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by trboCIVICWRX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I had to do this to fit 26" slicks on my hatch.

I used a plasma cutter to cut the pinch weld out. then seam welded it with a cheapie mig welder.

not an easy task, but worked fine for me.

BTW: I tried the hammer idea first, but it wasnt really as easy as you might think.</TD></TR></TABLE>
And all I am trying to do is tuck my 215/45/16's without ruining my new tires...

WoW, someone with real experience. That sounds like quite a job, but I guess you gotta do what you gotta do.

anyone else?
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grind it out and then mig it back together if u dont have access to a plasma cutter
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So, I take it that it is a pretty hefty pieve of metal? I haven't taken the fender liners all the way off and got a good look at it, yet.
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I had the same prob, i feel your pain. Take out the fender lining to get access to the fin. A normal hammer will NOT work. You will need a sledge hammer or maybe the flat hammer side on the other side of a big axe. Try to hit as much as you can to make it fold back and up. You will notice you cannot get the entire thing with this method because the rotor gets in the way. Do what you can with the hammer and try to dremel the places you could not get to. With mine, i was scared to dremel because this is actually removing material, unlike bending it. So, try not to take that much off with the dremel. I would not dremel it all the way up to where the two sheet metals join. Leave some there. Also, it would be wise to sand it a little to take away rough edges and then primer and paint it. The paint will chip off as you hammer it and dremel it. You wouldn't want it rusting down the road.

Anyone know of any ill effects shortening this fin will have? Will it make the joint where the metals come together weaker? I only dremeled a little bit of material off but there is still a small find there, just shorter.
Hope that helps some
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What if I dremel the whoel thing off then weld something over it to reinforce it? Something to reinforce it and strengthen the area which I removed the material...

Any ill effects of removing this piece, is it a structural piece?
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Hmmm. I dont know about welding something over it to strengthen it. I think you would have to weld more on the area of the seam. Once the seam is welded up good, I suppose you could weld in some extra metal for support. I guess I couldnt hurt anything. But I would weld the seam if you are going to completely dremel the entire fin off.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">or you can get smaller tires</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah like some of those 13" rims that mexican people put on their cars.
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i know you are not going to like this question but i will ask anyways. why are you so bent on running 215's? why not just 205's. even my 205's rub when i hit a bump or corner really hard. just asking so dont get mad.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slammed00si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i know you are not going to like this question but i will ask anyways. why are you so bent on running 215's? why not just 205's. even my 205's rub when i hit a bump or corner really hard. just asking so dont get mad. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Running 215's is not my problem. as I said the tires are not rubbing on the sides it is right down the midle. running 205's would actually mean that I would have to run something like 205/50 or 205/55 which would actually give me a taller side wall and an overall taller tire. That would actually be worse...
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Not to sound like I'm criticizing you, but why would you "have" to run 205/50 or 55? It looks like you're driving an EK, so the appropriate size for a 16 inch rim (so you don't have to throw off your speedometer) is 205/45/16. (This is the case if your car came with 185/65/14 tires.)
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shorter sidewall, less flex, better handling on corners, duh...

and for the other guy, 215 means a wider contact patch, duh....
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by selasornayr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Not to sound like I'm criticizing you, but why would you "have" to run 205/50 or 55? It looks like you're driving an EK, so the appropriate size for a 16 inch rim (so you don't have to throw off your speedometer) is 205/45/16.</TD></TR></TABLE>

try and find a good tire in 205/45/16... I couldn't

but like I said, that will not help my problem...

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as said above... 205/45/16 will give you the 'proper' overall diameter for a 6g civic...
215/45/16 is almost a cm bigger... yeah yeah... not that much...

therefore, 215/40/16 is the answer... no it's not... BFH is...
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same thing happens to me, i've got a nice ghetto lean in the back and my driverside tire does it. I just keep a can of rubberized undercoating and just spray it once a week or however needed
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mMmdoOonut &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">as said above... 205/45/16 will give you the 'proper' overall diameter for a 6g civic...
215/45/16 is almost a cm bigger... yeah yeah... not that much...

therefore, 215/40/16 is the answer... no it's not... BFH is...
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You guys are funny...

215/45 and 205/45 should have the same outer diameter, shouldn't they? The 215's will just be wider...


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