timing question
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timing question
93 Civic D15B7
Just finished replacing the head gasket. Trying to set the timing belt and I can't seem to get it lined up correctly. I'm at least one tooth off every time. Is there enough adjustment in the distributor to make up for one tooth, or does it need to be exact?
When I jump the service plug to set the timing and move the distributer, it doesn't change. When I put the timing light on it, the marks will not stay within the beam of the light. It's not one side of the beam or the other. Sometimes the marks are there and sometimes they are not, but they never stay still they are always going around.
Starts and idles fine but as soon as I put it in gear and give it gas, it bogs out. I have to rev to 5k to move.
Any input would be greatly appreciated.
Just finished replacing the head gasket. Trying to set the timing belt and I can't seem to get it lined up correctly. I'm at least one tooth off every time. Is there enough adjustment in the distributor to make up for one tooth, or does it need to be exact?
When I jump the service plug to set the timing and move the distributer, it doesn't change. When I put the timing light on it, the marks will not stay within the beam of the light. It's not one side of the beam or the other. Sometimes the marks are there and sometimes they are not, but they never stay still they are always going around.
Starts and idles fine but as soon as I put it in gear and give it gas, it bogs out. I have to rev to 5k to move.
Any input would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: timing question
If you think that your mechanical timing is off, one of the easiest checks to do is a compression test. Also, make sure you got the right belt. The more difficult but better thing to do is to reset the mechanical timing.
Do this:
Move the crank to TDC.
Loosen the timing belt tensioner bolt.
Remove the timing belt.
Ensure that the crank is exactly at TDC. make sure the gunsight part lines up correctly.
Ensure that the cam is exactly at TDC. The lines on the cam sprocket should be exactly coplanar with the top of the head. Don't be afraid to use a mirror to check - the fender is a bit in the way.
Replace the timing belt by starting with the cam and going counterclockwise. If you need, pull the tensioner back a bit and tighten the tensioner bolt to hold it in place. Release the tension when you get the belt on right.
Tighten the tensioner bolt to the correct torque.
Crank the engine by hand a few complete revolutions to make sure that you have no interference.
Reinstall all of the timing belt covers.
NOW try adjusting the ignition timing.
Do you have any CELs? Did you connect the timing light to the #1 cylinder?
Do this:
Move the crank to TDC.
Loosen the timing belt tensioner bolt.
Remove the timing belt.
Ensure that the crank is exactly at TDC. make sure the gunsight part lines up correctly.
Ensure that the cam is exactly at TDC. The lines on the cam sprocket should be exactly coplanar with the top of the head. Don't be afraid to use a mirror to check - the fender is a bit in the way.
Replace the timing belt by starting with the cam and going counterclockwise. If you need, pull the tensioner back a bit and tighten the tensioner bolt to hold it in place. Release the tension when you get the belt on right.
Tighten the tensioner bolt to the correct torque.
Crank the engine by hand a few complete revolutions to make sure that you have no interference.
Reinstall all of the timing belt covers.
NOW try adjusting the ignition timing.
Do you have any CELs? Did you connect the timing light to the #1 cylinder?
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When installing the timing belt, set the cam and crank perfectly at TDC1 and then install the timing belt in a way that avoids any slack whatsoever on left side where the belt runs directly from the cam gear to the crank gear. And after installation, turn the crank pulley ONLY counterclockwise to double check the mechanical timing.
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Re: timing question
no i don't have any cels, timing light is on #1, and for some reason my battery keeps going dead, i checked all my grounds and there ok. can being off one tooth make it so bad that the timing mark won't stay still at all?
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Re: timing question
when i put the timing marks were they should go and try to put the belt on it ends up like in the picture, when i put the belt on and tighten it, it puts my timing marks off by one tooth, the belt is the same as what came off of it 106 teeth, what could have changed its like the distance between the crank and the cam is taller by one tooth, is there another belt i could try?
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When installing the timing belt, set the cam and crank perfectly at TDC1 and then install the timing belt in a way that avoids any slack whatsoever on left side where the belt runs directly from the cam gear to the crank gear. And after installation, turn the crank pulley ONLY counterclockwise to double check the mechanical timing.
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Re: timing question
in the pic the belt is not on, just put it that way to take the pic, another question when i jump the service plug and move the distributor nothing changes the timing marks still go all over the place, its like the dizzy is not change anything
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