To those w/ 5 lug conv
01-28-2003, 05:37 PM
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Re: To those w/ 5 lug conv (ace1875)
This is from Tom's Post I am assuming ur using an EH (92-95)
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*I'm sure I'm not the first guy to discover this mod, and I'm not trying to sound as though I came up with the idea. Another H-T member told me that they've heard of this mod, so I just took it further and actually ordered one at my shop and put it on a customer's 1993 CX to test it - it works.*
Well for all of you guys running 4-wheel discs that need a bigger-than-stock 13/16ths M/C, there is a true bolt-in replacement for sure.
I heard a rumor that a certain 15/16ths m/c just bolted up, and it's true. I ordered one the other day and my shop put on ein a 1993 Cx hatch. It's a:
1991 Honda Civic EX 4-door master cylinder.
The part number from Honda is 46100-SH4-A11. They probably won't stock it, but it only took me one full day to get the one I ordered.
This m/c bolted right up to the stock Civic booster, so no more trying to find an Integra booster and m/c combo!
The only thing is that I cannot say which stops better - my Integra RS booster and m/c combo, or the 1991 EX with stock Civic booster because the CX we did the EX m/c on still had stock brakes to be upgraded with all Integra discs later.
The 1991 EX m/c is the same 15/16ths like my Integra Rs, but the ears are located the same as the stock Civic so there's no need for the Integra booster. the Integra booster is larger volume, but I've yet to determine if the Teg booster makes much difference over stock until,this CX guy gets his 4-wheel discs and 40/40 prop valve.
So if you want an easy m/c upgrade with no booster worries, try this one.
*I'm sure I'm not the first guy to discover this mod, and I'm not trying to sound as though I came up with the idea. Another H-T member told me that they've heard of this mod, so I just took it further and actually ordered one at my shop and put it on a customer's 1993 CX to test it - it works.*
Well for all of you guys running 4-wheel discs that need a bigger-than-stock 13/16ths M/C, there is a true bolt-in replacement for sure.
I heard a rumor that a certain 15/16ths m/c just bolted up, and it's true. I ordered one the other day and my shop put on ein a 1993 Cx hatch. It's a:
1991 Honda Civic EX 4-door master cylinder.
The part number from Honda is 46100-SH4-A11. They probably won't stock it, but it only took me one full day to get the one I ordered.
This m/c bolted right up to the stock Civic booster, so no more trying to find an Integra booster and m/c combo!
The only thing is that I cannot say which stops better - my Integra RS booster and m/c combo, or the 1991 EX with stock Civic booster because the CX we did the EX m/c on still had stock brakes to be upgraded with all Integra discs later.
The 1991 EX m/c is the same 15/16ths like my Integra Rs, but the ears are located the same as the stock Civic so there's no need for the Integra booster. the Integra booster is larger volume, but I've yet to determine if the Teg booster makes much difference over stock until,this CX guy gets his 4-wheel discs and 40/40 prop valve.
So if you want an easy m/c upgrade with no booster worries, try this one.
01-28-2003, 05:48 PM
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Re: To those w/ 5 lug conv (blu_si)
actually no i have a 00 si and wanted to convert to 5lug.
This pics are from SLRP
**pics to help show that this is an easy swap, it take me longer to change my oil and filter than to swap this MC out
**The usual 13/15" MC we are used to seeing in a 1995 Civic Si
Removing the original MC brake lines.
Original MC removed completly.
Side by side view of both MC units.
Close up of the 13/15" line connections.
Close up of the 15/16" line connections, same as the 13/15" MC connections.
The new (larger) 15/16" MC installed.
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01-28-2003, 05:59 PM
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Re: To those w/ 5 lug conv (ace1875)
actually no i have a 00 si and wanted to convert to 5lug.
couple of days ago i member did a ITR swap on an SI look back a couple of pages you might find him
This pics are from SLRP
**pics to help show that this is an easy swap, it take me longer to change my oil and filter than to swap this MC out **
The usual 13/15" MC we are used to seeing in a 1995 Civic Si
couple of days ago i member did a ITR swap on an SI look back a couple of pages you might find him
This pics are from SLRP
**pics to help show that this is an easy swap, it take me longer to change my oil and filter than to swap this MC out
**The usual 13/15" MC we are used to seeing in a 1995 Civic Si
01-28-2003, 06:01 PM
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Re: To those w/ 5 lug conv (blu_si)
Ok but i have a 00 si and i want to know if i need to change my master cylinder?
And if so where can i get one? Just pick up from honda/acura? Thx
And if so where can i get one? Just pick up from honda/acura? Thx
01-28-2003, 06:02 PM
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Re: To those w/ 5 lug conv (blu_si)
you should be fine. The larger MC is only going to give you a stiffer pedal, ie, not having to push the pedal down as far for the same stopping power. I don't know what the 00Si has though...
01-28-2003, 06:03 PM
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Re: To those w/ 5 lug conv (ace1875)
ok, so i just wanna make sure i got the right info. I can use the itr master cylinder with out any prob? And during the suspension change out i can also change the master cylinder? what brake fluid should i use? thx
01-28-2003, 06:06 PM
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Re: To those w/ 5 lug conv (blu_si)
ok, so i just wanna make sure i got the right info. I can use the itr master cylinder with out any prob? And during the suspension change out i can also change the master cylinder? what brake fluid should i use? thx
01-28-2003, 06:21 PM
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Re: To those w/ 5 lug conv (ace1875)
ok maybe i'm stupid, but i didn't see anything about completing this swap in a new civic. if someone could just answer my last few ?'s that would be great. thx
01-28-2003, 06:42 PM
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Re: To those w/ 5 lug conv (blu_si)
Just wondering how many of you that have a 5 lug conversion are also using the itr master brake cylinder. And where you got your parts from? Thx
01-28-2003, 09:06 PM
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Re: To those w/ 5 lug conv (blu_si)
ok maybe i'm stupid, but i didn't see anything about completing this swap in a new civic. if someone could just answer my last few ?'s that would be great. thx
01-28-2003, 09:09 PM
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Re: To those w/ 5 lug conv (Supertwinz)
this is your answer:
i also used the ITR MC.
USDM ITR BMC is direct bolt on for EKs. Nough said. I have a few USDM ITR BMCs forsale please feel free to IM me.
i also used the ITR MC.
01-28-2003, 10:06 PM
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Re: To those w/ 5 lug conv (jonas)
You don't need to switch to a larger MC. Yours is already big enough. I bet you prolly wouldn't even notice a difference between your 15/16 (or 7/8) and a 1" ITR unit.
01-30-2003, 06:16 PM
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Re: To those w/ 5 lug conv (blu_si)
i have an SI and have had a 5lug conversion on it for 2 years now. it is not worth using the ITR master cylinder, it is the same as an SI. This would only be worth doing in a cx or somthing of that nature...
01-30-2003, 06:28 PM
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Re: To those w/ 5 lug conv (jonas)
what you use is a 1998 4dr teg, MC and booster. Direct fit onto EK. NO bending no nothing!!!! Same Fuqing size as an ITR! 98 4 DR!!
01-30-2003, 08:35 PM
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Re: To those w/ 5 lug conv (Supertwinz)
i have a 00 Si and did this conversion two weeks ago.
you do not need anything!!! just the front knuckle and hub assebly, bolt it up. now go to the rear, take there rear trailing arm and use your existing LCA and everything else and bolt that bad boy up. that's it. still has stock feel. good luck if you dont have air tools because it is going to be a project
you do not need anything!!! just the front knuckle and hub assebly, bolt it up. now go to the rear, take there rear trailing arm and use your existing LCA and everything else and bolt that bad boy up. that's it. still has stock feel. good luck if you dont have air tools because it is going to be a project
01-30-2003, 11:01 PM
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Re: To those w/ 5 lug conv (LSiTurbo)
i know its not the same, but it would feel the same. 
it is not worth using the ITR master cylinder, it is the same as an SI
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