thinkin about LS in my hatch....
06-11-2003, 09:48 PM
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thinkin about LS in my hatch....
i am thinking about swapping a LS in my 97hatch. i want to go with a b16 tranny but i think i might get an LS tranny to tide me over. what kinda time slips ,in the 1/8th, would i be looking at if i ran an LS with an LS tranny and I/H/E?(and of course a LS ECU) would a b16 tranny make a huge difference? thanks
06-12-2003, 02:51 AM
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in my opinion, the ls without the vtec head swap, goes great with the ls tranny.
everyone talks about it being stupid long... but its really not. its even less noticable when you have to shift at under 7000
everyone talks about it being stupid long... but its really not. its even less noticable when you have to shift at under 7000
06-12-2003, 05:54 AM
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Re: thinkin about LS in my hatch.... (chillax)
I think you can pull between 15.2-15.5 in an ek with an ls. I think the b16 tranny doesn't make much of a difference unless you can get a good price on it. I pulled a 14.9 in my 94 cx not that good, but I've seen better. Depends on the driver and how good the engine is. I say save some more money and crvtec swap or prelude, you're going to need a little more torque to move that heavier ek. Thats just my opinion. Good luck!
06-12-2003, 09:26 AM
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Re: thinkin about LS in my hatch.... (Nebula)
so you think if i could get and LS for 400 or a CRV for 700, i should go for a CRV and wait the little while longer?
and anyone know of a hydro LS tranny for sale?
and anyone know of a hydro LS tranny for sale?
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06-12-2003, 12:02 PM
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Re: thinkin about LS in my hatch.... (justaEJhatch)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by justaEJhatch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so you think if i could get and LS for 400 or a CRV for 700, i should go for a CRV and wait the little while longer?
and anyone know of a hydro LS tranny for sale?</TD></TR></TABLE>
if you're not going fi with the new engine, definitely wait for a crv.
and anyone know of a hydro LS tranny for sale?</TD></TR></TABLE>
if you're not going fi with the new engine, definitely wait for a crv.
06-12-2003, 12:18 PM
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Re: thinkin about LS in my hatch.... (w00t!)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by w00t! »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">At least it's super easy!
I would go 2nd generation B16A, much more power, almost same price.</TD></TR></TABLE>
= b16a2 motor. its much more money than a ls swap. if u shop around say getting everything peice by peice for a b20 or b18b u can get everything for around maybe 1200-1400 depending. b16a2's aruond here where i live at least are like 2 grand at the least. and i have seen b18bs pull the same times maybe even better than that of the b16a2's
I would go 2nd generation B16A, much more power, almost same price.</TD></TR></TABLE>
= b16a2 motor. its much more money than a ls swap. if u shop around say getting everything peice by peice for a b20 or b18b u can get everything for around maybe 1200-1400 depending. b16a2's aruond here where i live at least are like 2 grand at the least. and i have seen b18bs pull the same times maybe even better than that of the b16a2's
06-12-2003, 12:30 PM
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Re: thinkin about LS in my hatch.... (juicedricer)
get a b20.thats what i got except,i have a 2000 gsr tranny.i got my motor for $850 and tranny for $650.all together ive spent around $2000.i cant wait til i drop it in. 
06-12-2003, 12:43 PM
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Re: (88hondahatch)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 88hondahatch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">my buddy has an LS in his eg hatch and runs consistant 14.7's @ 95 and another buddy that has an LS in his EK coupe that only ran a 16.00 so its hard to say </TD></TR></TABLE>14.7 stock? no way mine only does 15.5
06-12-2003, 01:16 PM
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Re: thinkin about LS in my hatch.... (juicedricer)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by juicedricer »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
= b16a2 motor. its much more money than a ls swap. if u shop around say getting everything peice by peice for a b20 or b18b u can get everything for around maybe 1200-1400 depending. b16a2's aruond here where i live at least are like 2 grand at the least. and i have seen b18bs pull the same times maybe even better than that of the b16a2's
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why would you pay 2-2.5K for a b16a2? that is so idiotic.
buy a b16a for 1400 and buy the eg-ek cable tranny conversion 250
dont pay 1000 more for a different imprint on the block
= b16a2 motor. its much more money than a ls swap. if u shop around say getting everything peice by peice for a b20 or b18b u can get everything for around maybe 1200-1400 depending. b16a2's aruond here where i live at least are like 2 grand at the least. and i have seen b18bs pull the same times maybe even better than that of the b16a2's </TD></TR></TABLE>
why would you pay 2-2.5K for a b16a2? that is so idiotic.
buy a b16a for 1400 and buy the eg-ek cable tranny conversion 250
dont pay 1000 more for a different imprint on the block
06-12-2003, 04:25 PM
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Re: thinkin about LS in my hatch.... (mugensport9)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mugensport9 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
why would you pay 2-2.5K for a b16a2? that is so idiotic.
buy a b16a for 1400 and buy the eg-ek cable tranny conversion 250
dont pay 1000 more for a different imprint on the block
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it's not just an imprint. b16a1=obd0 b16a2=obd2, for some people that's important to pass emissions with. also, the newer the motor the less mileage obviously, which means less money spent on replacing crap on the engine.
why would you pay 2-2.5K for a b16a2? that is so idiotic.
buy a b16a for 1400 and buy the eg-ek cable tranny conversion 250
dont pay 1000 more for a different imprint on the block
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it's not just an imprint. b16a1=obd0 b16a2=obd2, for some people that's important to pass emissions with. also, the newer the motor the less mileage obviously, which means less money spent on replacing crap on the engine.
06-12-2003, 04:55 PM
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Re: thinkin about LS in my hatch.... (civicdxtyper)
no one has really said anything about a b20. any reason why? just want to know if that would be better than an LS???
06-12-2003, 06:17 PM
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Re: thinkin about LS in my hatch.... (civicdxtyper)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civicdxtyper »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
it's not just an imprint. b16a1=obd0 b16a2=obd2, for some people that's important to pass emissions with. also, the newer the motor the less mileage obviously, which means less money spent on replacing crap on the engine. </TD></TR></TABLE>
newer motor means less mileage?
not on b16a
since its a jdm motor it will have less then 35K on is because its illigal to have them past 30 in jap.
i bet the b16a2 has either the same or more.
oh and obd2
wow go buy a harness
it's not just an imprint. b16a1=obd0 b16a2=obd2, for some people that's important to pass emissions with. also, the newer the motor the less mileage obviously, which means less money spent on replacing crap on the engine. </TD></TR></TABLE>
newer motor means less mileage?
not on b16a
since its a jdm motor it will have less then 35K on is because its illigal to have them past 30 in jap.
i bet the b16a2 has either the same or more.
oh and obd2
wow go buy a harness
06-12-2003, 07:13 PM
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Re: thinkin about LS in my hatch.... (justaEJhatch)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by justaEJhatch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no one has really said anything about a b20. any reason why? just want to know if that would be better than an LS???</TD></TR></TABLE>
ls=1.8L crv=2.0L , do the math.
ls=1.8L crv=2.0L , do the math.
06-12-2003, 07:14 PM
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Re: thinkin about LS in my hatch.... (mugensport9)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mugensport9 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
newer motor means less mileage?
not on b16a
since its a jdm motor it will have less then 35K on is because its illigal to have them past 30 in jap.
i bet the b16a2 has either the same or more.
oh and obd2
wow go buy a harness
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i know the harness is different between the obd's, i never said anything about that. i was talking about the engines. it costs $ to convert from obd0 to obd2.
newer motor means less mileage?
not on b16a
since its a jdm motor it will have less then 35K on is because its illigal to have them past 30 in jap.
i bet the b16a2 has either the same or more.
oh and obd2
wow go buy a harness
</TD></TR></TABLE>i know the harness is different between the obd's, i never said anything about that. i was talking about the engines. it costs $ to convert from obd0 to obd2.
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Re: thinkin about LS in my hatch.... (civicdxtyper)
yes i am well aware of the difference in displacment. thanks for pointing that out. i was wondering if it was worth the extra dough for a tad more tourque. by the way the CRV stock numbers are that impressive compared to the LS stock numbers. that is why i was asking. if there was some sort of special reason to get the CRV....
i was wondering if it was worth the extra dough for a tad more tourque. by the way the CRV stock numbers are that impressive compared to the LS stock numbers. that is why i was asking. if there was some sort of special reason to get the CRV....
06-12-2003, 09:10 PM
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Re: thinkin about LS in my hatch.... (civicdxtyper)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civicdxtyper »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
it's not just an imprint. b16a1=obd0 b16a2=obd2, for some people that's important to pass emissions with. also, the newer the motor the less mileage obviously, which means less money spent on replacing crap on the engine. </TD></TR></TABLE>
lol, what's a B16a1?? last i heard, Honda never stamped a B16a1........
IMO, go with the LS....i did......cost was $1300 complete, and i am running 14.7's with bolt ons.....i am very pleased, and it is reliable too
Modified by SpoonFedHatch at 6:23 AM 6/13/2003
it's not just an imprint. b16a1=obd0 b16a2=obd2, for some people that's important to pass emissions with. also, the newer the motor the less mileage obviously, which means less money spent on replacing crap on the engine. </TD></TR></TABLE>
lol, what's a B16a1?? last i heard, Honda never stamped a B16a1........
IMO, go with the LS....i did......cost was $1300 complete, and i am running 14.7's with bolt ons.....i am very pleased, and it is reliable too
Modified by SpoonFedHatch at 6:23 AM 6/13/2003
06-12-2003, 09:37 PM
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Re: thinkin about LS in my hatch.... (SpoonFedHatch)
my friend just swapped his dx coupe to ls going for fi. He has 9:1 compression pistons and a/c and i thought it felt fast when i was it in it. he hasnt ran it yet he waiting untill its turboed. i also have a dx and want to do the ls swap now but the times that your talk about seem slow for the money its gonna cost. (spoonfedhatch)s time sounds about what i was thinking of.
06-13-2003, 06:22 AM
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Re: thinkin about LS in my hatch.... (mugensport9)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mugensport9 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
newer motor means less mileage?
not on b16a
since its a jdm motor it will have less then 35K on is because its illigal to have them past 30 in jap.
i bet the b16a2 has either the same or more.
oh and obd2
wow go buy a harness
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there you go posting the same picture again. . . .
ps. you didnt own him
newer motor means less mileage?
not on b16a
since its a jdm motor it will have less then 35K on is because its illigal to have them past 30 in jap.
i bet the b16a2 has either the same or more.
oh and obd2
wow go buy a harness
</TD></TR></TABLE>there you go posting the same picture again. . . .
ps. you didnt own him
06-13-2003, 09:38 AM
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Re: thinkin about LS in my hatch.... (SpoonFedHatch)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SpoonFedHatch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
IMO, go with the LS....i did......cost was $1300 complete, and i am running 14.7's with bolt ons.....i am very pleased, and it is reliable too
Modified by SpoonFedHatch at 6:23 AM 6/13/2003</TD></TR></TABLE>
ok thank you. this is kinda the answer i was waiting for. someone is pleased with an LS and it only costed him about 1300 complete. thank you. i believe i will start my search for a good inexpensive LS long block and LS tranny. thank you spoonfedhatch.
ps: did you decide to stay with your EG and not sell it?
IMO, go with the LS....i did......cost was $1300 complete, and i am running 14.7's with bolt ons.....i am very pleased, and it is reliable too
Modified by SpoonFedHatch at 6:23 AM 6/13/2003</TD></TR></TABLE>
ok thank you. this is kinda the answer i was waiting for. someone is pleased with an LS and it only costed him about 1300 complete. thank you. i believe i will start my search for a good inexpensive LS long block and LS tranny. thank you spoonfedhatch.
ps: did you decide to stay with your EG and not sell it?