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Last weekend, I put my stock shocks and springs back in my EG and the front of the car sits a good 3-4 inches higher than the back. WTF! I drove it for 500 miles already and its still the same.
The shocks are not blown, I have checked everything more than once.

Does anyone have any idea why this would be?

98civdx

3 inches higher or 3/4 higher? just making sure.

Group Tenacity

3 to 4 inches

civic_driver

Try switching the front and rear springs. Maybe they're different.

Group Tenacity

well, when i removed them from the car to put kyb shocks and coilovers, I never took the springs off of the shocks, so i know the springs are on the correct shocks.

Thanks for the input tho...

waaBAAH

your profile picture fits perfectly with waht your describing.. a 4x4 lol

all jokes aside (lol)... one fo two thigns i can think of here...

either a:
the front struts arent fully seated in yoru wishbone fork. if i recall correctly you should be able to see the bottom portion of the strut protruding through the wishbone by a 1/2 inch or so. jsut a thought

or b:
your so used to seeing all the hondas being lowered and your not used to the factory wheel gap. ever see that stock honda driven by the old lady?..normally faded red or puke green. they look like 4x4's going down the road...and that is factory ride height!

did you actually measure 3 to 4 inches? or are you guessing? i will search for stock ride heaight and the procedure to properly measure ride height.

ysxe

3-4 inces is alot. how different is the free lenght of the springs?

Si_Boi

Do you have subs in the back? Sub Boxes do tend to lower the rear of a car depending on the weight...

98civdx

ok, because the springs on are on the correct shock doesnt mean the spring is on the correct side, maybe you switched the shocks around? its easy to do....

si boi those will have to be some heavy *** subs to lower 3-4 inches.
post up some pics....

Si_Boi

Hey I Have Seen It Happen....*Shrugs*....LOL

98civdx

i have to but it was a competion car and had 4 15s in it lol

Si_Boi

Yeah Yeah Yeah Your Right It Was hahaha...My Bad...Nah Than What You Said Has To Be Right....Or What About The Bump Stops? Those Do Make A Big Difference Weather They In Or Cut Or Not In At Alll....

98civdx

yes they do but it the post before he said that he never removed the springs from the shock.

Si_Boi

mmmm....Okay Than I Unno I Never Had That Problem, Never Owned A Honda With Stock Shocks...lol

waaBAAH

bump stops wont make a difference if OP is raising the car with his stock springs and struts combo.

shailoche

Make sure that your springs are seated properly in the assembly. There is a slot/perch that the spring must be spun down on to in order to keep the spring from spinning when it is installed. If you didn't get the spring seated on the perch properly it can cause about an 1 inch of difference.

But 3-4 inches is way too big a number...are you really sure it is that much? Think about it, a ground control coil-over spring is adjustable to 4 inches. That is an aftermarket adjustable spring and it can only make a 4 inch difference.
A stock spring would have to be EXTREMELY damaged and hence VERY VISUALLY messed up to make anywhere near a 4 inch difference. It wouldn't likely be a hidden problem. I mean 4 inches man!

waaBAAH

stock civics normally have abou 4 inches of wheel gap in the front.

my civic hatch stock was way high in the front... i see grandmas runnign around town with huge wheel gaps as well

Group Tenacity

Thanks for all the suggestions.
Like i said before, the springs/shocks were never touched other than when i removed them from the car back in 2001, to be replaced with kyb's and coilovers.
I'm starting to think the rear of the car is the problem after seeing a few eg's at stock hight. but at the same time, the front seems too high, even with the weight of a b20v under the hood.
As I have also said, i have checked everything more than once, and again today I went over every bolt, bushing, spring, pearch, etc...
I have taken your suggestions and checked again... i can not find anything that would make the car sit like it has hydraulics in front.
Keep in mind I have been building race cars since '96 so I do know a thing or 2 about suspension, but, this is my first time putting stock suspension back on a car. I was hoping that there was a common problem of coils needing to settle or something along those lines, but apparently no one puts stock springs/shocks in their cars... LOL...

Again thanks for the suggestions, and keep them coming. Maybe there is something I have over looked.

BTW.. i'll post a pic some time tomorow...

Group Tenacity

here is the pic of how the car sits. As i said above, im starting to think the rear is the problem.
Is it possible that aftermarket LCA's would cause the rear to sit lower than with OEM LCA's?

civic_driver

The front looks like 1 or 2 inches too high. You're probably used to seeing lowered hondas and maybe that's why you think it's sitting 3-4" too high. The rear looks a little low though; maybe it might be from the photo angle. Do you have something heavy in the back?

Maybe the springs/shocks are just worn out and that's why you're getting these results. Probably if you don't use the shocks/springs for a long time they don't work as they should anymore. I don't know. I'm not too familiar with suspension components.

98civdx

civic driver your right but the rear looks normal to me. or at least thats about where my ej6 sat when i got it.
the front definetly looks like the problem here..

the fact that you have b20v under the hood there is something deffineltly wrong with the shocks and srpings, youd think it would sit lower due to the heavier engine.

Group Tenacity

Thanks for the suggestions guys.
I Parked the car next to an un-molested eg at the store, took a comparison, and my rear sits lower than the other eg, and my front sits higher than the other eg.
Im going to put the oem rear LCA's in the car to see if it makes any differance, or atleast brings the rear up a little. maybe that will transfer some weight to the front and bring it down some.

Keep the suggestions coming, and thanks!

renelovesnike

The only thing i can think of is where your shock/strut connects the the fork there's a line that pops out on the shock and a BUTTCRACK on the fork maybe you didn't line them up right and your shock is not all the way down! Sorry if i'm confusing!!!

waaBAAH

thoguht this too but stut is slotted and i promise you that you will strip the bolt if it doenst go in that slot.

Group Tenacity

You can not get the bolt into the fork if the tab is not lined up properly on the fork and shock. Also if the shock is not in all the way (+/- 1/8") the bolt will not go in.

Thanks for the suggestion anyways, keep em coming, gota get this figured out sooner or later...