...Baker

Hey guys, i'm currently working on my 98 Civic Coupe and am directing it to be a track/sunday driver. I have completely stripped the interior and have come to the support beam that runs across the car connecting the bottom of the B-pillars. It is a three piece brace.

Is this brace a structural importance? Or is it for side impacts? Any help would be nice, this brace/beam weighs a ton and would help me out to lose it. Thanks

...Baker

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...Baker

so no one knows anything?

highroller54

I dont know what you mean, is it stock? pics?

instructor74

If you are talking about the structure of the car then you are just asking for trouble. Why in the hell would you ever want to remove a major part of the uni body and make the car unsafe for any type of driving let alone racing on the track. No sanctioned racing body would allow you to remove it

...Baker

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by highroller54 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I dont know what you mean, is it stock? pics?</TD></TR></TABLE> yeah, it's stock... here's a picture for reference.. (it's the polished looking part behind the front seats that spans the width of the cabin)



<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by instructor74 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you are talking about the structure of the car then you are just asking for trouble. Why in the hell would you ever want to remove a major part of the uni body and make the car unsafe for any type of driving let alone racing on the track. No sanctioned racing body would allow you to remove it </TD></TR></TABLE>

if you would actually read the post i'm telling you... I DON'T exactly know what it is or the purpose. I've seen pictures of other SCCA tracking civics without the support so in your post... I think you're wrong. Just about every car i've come across has it removed. So take your attitude and shove it up your ***... I'm simply asking a question

...Baker

and for further reference (esp. for instructor74) you can see if removed in the following:


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this car competes in the honda cup...

I realize that this car has a cage as do i.. but mine is not welded in.

fventura03

iTrader: (1)

strange, mine doesn't have it, didn't have it. do you have better pics?

mine:

...Baker

yeah, I don't think EG hatches come with them... EK's do..

here's another few pics:

fventura03

iTrader: (1)

oh ok, it may be ok not to have it, not sure. i dont see how it bothers you though, i'd polish it up, or color match it to your interior, you'd hardly know it was there.

unless you're complaining about the weight?

instructor74

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .:Baker:. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> yeah, it's stock... here's a picture for reference.. (it's the polished looking part behind the front seats that spans the width of the cabin)



if you would actually read the post i'm telling you... I DON'T exactly know what it is or the purpose. I've seen pictures of other SCCA tracking civics without the support so in your post... I think you're wrong. Just about every car i've come across has it removed. So take your attitude and shove it up your ***... I'm simply asking a question </TD></TR></TABLE>
Well your just full of Internet muscle aren't you you ask a question with little or no info I ask a simple ? as to why you would run the risk of poss damage to your car by removing it based on what you posted. I never said I was right I could very well be wrong. I see a lot of post here now with photos and understand what you are talking about now so shove your bad attitude where the sun don't shine

highroller54

I would run it since you dont have a welded cage, it looks like it would add a little body stiffness

SOHC4life 96

You'll probably get better results from the guys in the AutoX/RR forum. They know all the rules and what parts to loose and what to keep on a car.

...Baker

as stated in the main post it's all about weight. The on part i removed was well over 8lbs and after seeing many cars without them i wondered if it was a structural part or merely an impact piece.

chrisw85

no mean to thread jack, but why isnt the takata harness in the pics above mounted to the rear bar on the cage? is there some reason to mount on the floor? I thought that creates bad angles which can injure you worse in a crash.

...Baker

it's at a 45 degree angle so it's good. Not as good as the hardmount to the rollbar but good enough for now.

platinum00

If you have a good cage you dont need it. If you dont please keep them so you dont hurt yourself

96-98 did not have these, i think they were added in 99

platinum.

...Baker

my car is a 98 and has it and my buddies 97 EX has one


and what's a "good" cage? as in welded in? I have a 4pt autopower bolt-in

platinum00

There are some models that did not have them. I don’t remember... Maybe it was only the ex's then that have them.

I am not failure with the auto power cages, but removing the support beam will weaken the stability of the chassis. If your cage enforces or increases stability you might be ok.

Those pieces only way about 25lbs or so… I don’t think you’re going to gain much by removing them.

platinum