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Old 11-29-2008, 03:33 PM
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it's a 97 dx.
Well my girlfriends clutch went out so she parked it over night and we came to get it the next day. Then I go start it to see if it would move, and it seemed like the battery was dead not giving the starter any juice, so we tow it home. I replace the whole clutch assemble. Finished and go to start it but same thing as before. Tried push starting. I checked the (fuel/ ign coil fuses under the dash) and the big 40 amp ign in the engine bay. I've swapped dizzy's. Now wondering where to look next.


So please point me in the right direction in where to look next, thanks!
Old 11-29-2008, 04:04 PM
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did you try jumpin the battery or trying another one or takin it to autozone and testing it, did you test for spark and fuel?
Old 11-29-2008, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by cehcivic15
did you try jumpin the battery or trying another one or takin it to autozone and testing it, did you test for spark and fuel?
yep tried jumpin it.
You can hear the fuel pump kick on.
I checked for spark and I have nothing. Checked the necessary fuses (all good). I've swapped dizzy's.
What else can I check?
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sounds like the coil or the igniter has gone out. i had a similar problem not to long ago on my 92 SI. started fine one day the next nothing. swapped out the coil and igniter and its been fine ever since.
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Originally Posted by siboosted
sounds like the coil or the igniter has gone out. i had a similar problem not to long ago on my 92 SI. started fine one day the next nothing. swapped out the coil and igniter and its been fine ever since.
I already swapped the dizzy off my running car.

Anyone else?
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check the grounds on the tranny, valve cover, and make sure the ecu ground is good at the thermo housing.
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Originally Posted by revhardallday
check the grounds on the tranny, valve cover, and make sure the ecu ground is good at the thermo housing.
Yeah I TRIPLE checked those grounds. haha
but their all good and connected. :/
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just cause there connected dosent make them good. take your volt meter and put your black lead on the ground post of the battery then take the red lead and put it on the engine and the various grounds. if you see any voltage over .5v is considered to not be grounded properly. espically make sure to check the dist. case.
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Originally Posted by gsrhatch2356
just cause there connected dosent make them good. take your volt meter and put your black lead on the ground post of the battery then take the red lead and put it on the engine and the various grounds. if you see any voltage over .5v is considered to not be grounded properly. espically make sure to check the dist. case.
By good I meant sanded, and clean, in the factory placement. I currently don't have DMM on hand, but I'm confident it isn't the grounds. The car ran fine before it sat over night.
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Did you check the rubber grommet that sits on the clutch pedal that actuates the safety clutch switch(don't know thw excact name).cause if it's missing your car won't start.
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Originally Posted by jvillagran2000
Did you check the rubber grommet that sits on the clutch pedal that actuates the safety clutch switch(don't know thw excact name).cause if it's missing your car won't start.
The starter engages, so that can't be it.
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dumb question did you check the timing belt?
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Do you have power to the dizzy? (blk/yel wire)
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Holy ****! I can't believe no one has asked about the main relay. Have you checked your main relay?
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he already says he has fuel...
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Originally Posted by 19ekcoupe96
he already says he has fuel...
and?
Old 11-29-2008, 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by EGhatch87
Do you have power to the dizzy? (blk/yel wire)
I'm assuming I don't, cause I swapped a working dizzy in and nothing. Sorry no DMM on hand.


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and?

Well since it controls power to ignition and fuel, you would figure it would take them both down.
But hey I guess it's worth a try. haha

And if it's not that then I guess ill check out the ignition switch?
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This is a long shot, but maybe when you swapped dizzy's you fixed the problem, but from all previous attempts at cranking the car, you've flooded the car out. Did you check for spark after swapping dizzy's?
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I swapped the in a working main relay; nothing.
I swapped the ecu out of a running car; nothing.
I even cleaned the grounds AGAIN; nothing.

What else can cause this no spark issue.
I just don't get what could cause this no spark issue after the clutch going out and sitting over night?.... Sooooo frustrating.
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not sure does that have a throttle position sencer if so thats ur best bet
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Originally Posted by jdmsinglecamdelsol
not sure does that have a throttle position sencer if so thats ur best bet
A TPS sensor causing no spark?
Any car I've ever seen with a bad TPS sensor just runs like complete hell.
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TPS sensor malfunction will cause the car to run like *****, but still run.

well the main relay was worth a shot for internet trouble shooting. i've seen it before. from here, its time to bust out a DMM and a wiring diagram and check to see you are getting your voltages, etc...
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check fuse 9 (15a) under the dash.
check fuse 31 (7.5a) under the dash
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since you dont have a multimeter run a piece of wire from the battery to the dizzy wire and if it will start. also when you say "it acts line the battery is bad" what exactly do you mean? turning over slow? check to make sure the pos wire on that starter is tight, and also check every single ground agian and when your done check them again. big one on the trans, little one on the thermostat, and the one on the valve cover. be sure to check both ends of each.
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