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Ok so I used to be in the honda game way back in the day (about 7 years ago) so I'm just getting back into it thanks to the wife.....I know strange. Anyway last August wife comes up to me and says, babe I don't want my BMW anymore and I want to get rid of some debt. I'm thinking ok, you can sell your car but I'm not selling my car (2008 black on black Charger). Well wife sells her BMW and I get her a civic (1997 Civic EX coupe 5 spd), I'm thinking hey a Civic is reliable, good on gas and if something happens to it I can fix it, you know the all american husband lol!! So we fast forward to January of this year (2012) and wife blows the head gasket on said Civic and is now stranded on the side of the highway at 3 in the morning. I meet her, make a quick fix and on the way home wife says; I don't want this car anymore, I want a EK hatch!! I'm thinking first off where did you get that chassis code from (EK)? You been watching that Top Gear show again lol? She said no I've been on Import Atlanta and Honda Tech. I'm like ok well we'll find you a hatch and I'll keep the coupe (in my mind I'm like hell yeah, she has no idea what I'm going to do with this car)!! Long story short I buy her a pretty clean 1996 Civic CX hatch and she loves it!! So now that I've kept the wife happy (for now) I'll move on to the build:

Now keep in mind I just started this build in January and still have a lot of work to do, but thanks to the guys and Mainstream Performance (Robert, Ben, James and you can never forget ole Scotty!!) this build is happening, so I would definately like to thank all of them!!!

Ok first pics right after purchase:











The car was in decent shape. I bought the car back when gas was a little higher than it was now and Hondas were going for the premium. Seller wanted $3500.00 but after picking it a part I ended up getting it for $2,060.00. I thought it was a pretty good deal with 124,000 miles on it.

So like I said earlier my wife blows the head gasket so now comes the hard decision. Do I stay single cam and throw a little boost on her, or do I go atleast with an LS swap and boost it. Well after visiting Mainstream the decision was much easier, I ended up picking up a jdm GSR swap that was fully built with only about 3k miles on it. The swap was full of aftermarket goodies like Eagle rods, JE pistons, block gaurd, magnetic drain plug, Skunk2 intake manifold, Wavetrac lsd, ACT clutch/flywheel and brand new seals and ****!! The motor and tranny was built at Mainstream with all Honda OEM parts and such and I got it on the low (thanks Charles!!) Anyway so after a few frustrating days (mainly because I forgot how to do everything) the swap was in!!









Ok so now the swap was in and now it was time to address a few things before the boost came. First order of business was the wheels/tires, suspension and brakes. I ended up going with the Eibach Pro System Plus, complete with springs, shocks and swap bars. As far as brakes I ended going with an AEM big brake kit for now with hawk pads. Will probably end up going with the Willwood kit before long! As far as wheels go I went with some 16" polished Rota slips, wrapped in Falken Azenis (215-45R16) to round everything out!!

More pics:













And yes these brakes do fit behind 16" wheels, I still have about 1/4 gap between the calipers and wheels with this setup. These AEM brakes kind of suck, good thing I don't have to much money in them. I wonder if Fastbrakes has figured out a way to mount the willwood calipers on the AEM big brake kit? Will have to find that out. Oh and by the way I ended up doing a complete 99-00 front end conversion (headlights, front and rear bumpers, both fenders, hood, foglights and both front and rear lips). I'm probably going to end up going with a Back Yard Special (BYS) front bumper before I finish the exterior though.

And now pics of the new stance:





Ok now the next order of business was to have Mainstream fabricate me a valve cover ventilation/catch can system for the boost to come!!

Lines and catch can mocked up:



Valve cover stripped and prepped for some welding:



Ok now that the ventilation system was taken care of it was now time to swap the Skunk2 intake manifold for an Edeldbrock piece:





End results:



Next up was mounting of the intercooler and some modifications to the intercooler piping to get everything to fit snug. I got the intercooler off of ebay and the dimensions are 28x8x3.





Next I ordered some 1000cc injectors from Fuel Injector Connection up in Cumming GA (freakin awesome deal) and a Walbro fuel pump. Now you would think that all the hard crap was done...........wrong (rant time!!) I swear I had never seen people that will post something online that they are trying to sell and then when you call them and tell em that you want to buy it they flake!!! I probably found 3-4 nice quality turbo kits ranging from $1500.00-$3000.00 that people were trying to sell that I could not buy for some reason. I would get in contact with them and say:

Me: hey bro saw you had a turbo kit for sale on the forum and wanted to know if you still had it.
Them: uhhhh yeah I still have the kit
Me: ok well I have cash in hand, front pocket, back pocket, your pockets, my socks, your socks and I'm sure if I looked in my glove box I would probably find another dollar!! (you get my drift)(for all the slow people: I was basically saying hey I have all the money in my hand right now, not part of the money, not can you wait until I get paid?).
Them: well uhhhh hmmmm I don't know man I was about to go to the gym and work out. Think you can come get it next week?
Me: WTF? Are you serious. Ok guys I know people are busy, but I wouldn't care if I was loaded and trying to sell something. If someone called me wanting to buy one of my parts that I'm trying to sell for like 3 stacks, I'm going to get my fat *** up and meet so I can get paid. Atleast thats what I thought normal people would do. Ok enough ranting. The above scenario happened 3-4 times and I finally got fed up with it, so I called a buddy of mine who had a slightly used (50 miles) ebay kit. Now at first I didn't want the kit for the obvious reasons, plus the kit was intended for a SOHC so the turbo was a t3 t4, but it was a 50 trim. So I rolled my happy *** up to Rome and bought it for $300.00 complete with everything, turbo (zero shaft play), mani, intercooler, intercooler piping, bov and a bunch of other stuff. I hopped on ebay and bought a log style manifold for $40.00 and I also picked up that intercooler that are in the above pics. I ended up getting a tial waste gate from a fella on here (can't remember his screen name, but I appreciate the good deal). After the new mani got here I installed the kit. Had a couple of issues as they should be expected from an ebay kit but none the less the kit was on and working fine.

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Next was the tune which Scotty @ Mainstream did for me. Setup ended up making 360hp @ 14-15lbs. The turbo responds very quickly and was at full spool around 4k rpm. The boost comes in real smooth and has a very broad power band. We tried to go higher (19psi) but the waste gate spring (6lbs) said hell no. No worries because very soon I'll be purchasing some cams, valve train, throttle body, equal length mani and some other crap that I can't remember then I'll retune and see where I'm at. I am very happy with the power output or hp per dollar spent. At 300hp (9-10psi) the car is a beast (ripped the welded driver's side motor mount 3 times and counting). So don't hate on the egay to bad, when this turbo decides that it wants to take a poop, I'll replace it with a 60-1 Garrett variant FTW!! I don't have any pics from the dyno but as soon as I'm done posting this thread I'll upload them to Youtube and edit in a link.

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http://youtu.be/8EW8a4whQqk

Ok now came the exhaust, I didn't want anything loud at ALL!!! So I modified my stock muffler. I started by removing the muffler and cutting it open:

Took out one of the walls and several baffles.



Replaced the 1 3/4 pipe with a 3" pipe (outlet):



And welded it back together (I know my welding sucks as I haven't welded in 7 years), you'll be fine. Mocked it on the car and welded a 3" inlet, then took it all back down, welded the axle back portion to the muffler and mocked it back up. We then welded and angled 3" outlet that continued to meet the bumper, then painted everything black to hide my shotty welding.

Enjoy:









Ok so to me it looks good because it looks stock, but more importantly its flows very well and is quiet as hell (some of my buddies that have rode in my car call it the quiet demon) lol. The entire exhaust is 3" mandrel bent piping all the way out. I also recorded a video of the exhaust and once again as soon as I'm done posting this I will upload one, you should like. Haters go ahead and blast, but it flows well, looks good, sounds great (quiet) and didn't cost me a dime!!!

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http://youtu.be/XiE7AcYxKtk

http://youtu.be/40_mLFHlmiY

Ok so now that I can pause on the engine I started on the interior!! First thing I bought was an 99-00 SI gauge cluster. I took the gauge cluster a part so that I could re-paint the needles and put some carbon fiber vinyl on the trim piece. I painted the needles with some flourescent amber/orange paint so the needles can glow under some uv bulbs (still haven't ordered yet). I then took some 3M carbon fiber wrap that I had laying around and wrapped the trim.

Enjoy:

Stock before mods:



Carbon fiber cut out for trim piece:



Carbon fiber applied to trim piece:



Trim piece installed back onto newly painted needles:



Almost there:



Money shot:



Ok so hope you liked it but if you don't, don't worry about it lol!! Next I went on to fix a failed attempt to due a complete interior color change from grey to black. I had already attempted to do this once using the Krylon Fusion for plastic paint. A little advise.....DON'T EVERY USE THIS ****!!!! Ok now that thats over I can proceed. If you are going to paint the interior of your car only use products from a company called SEM. You can only buy this stuff at automotive paint supply places. This stuff works wonders, I bought the Laudau Black and everything I painted looks like it came from Honda black!!! Anyway I'm almost done with the interior but I'm having to wait on my headliner, sunvisors and center arm rest. As we all know the back upper plastic pieces all play a role in holding up your headliner so I'll just have to wait. I'm getting the headliner, sunvisors and center arm rest all done in black suede with red stitching for the low ($110.00) and they do great work!!! Will post pics when its done. Anyway I ended up buy 4 guages (Depo) to help me monitor my engine so I made a custom gauge holder out of acrylic but I ended up breaking it when I went to drill the 4th hole. Good thing for me my wife is the shiznat with CAD and we have a laser cutter. It took me 2-3 hours to make a gauge holder that ended up breaking. It took my wife about 10 minutes, ain't that some bull shi!. Anyway hope you guys like as I've gotten tons on compliments on it even though we're still working out the kinks to get that perfect fit. I ended up moving my radio and taking out that coin tray that sits next to the radio to run all 4 gauges all the way across.

Krylon Fusion crap, this is what you'll end up with:



Get this instead:



Remember this?



Now (straight sex):





Waiting on that headliner, cool shot of my frost king (STUFF WORKS) FTW!!:

















Picked me up a pair of Delsol seats that just need some touching up, I've pulled that fabric off of the passenger side seat so that I can re-attach the fabric to the foam with some 3M fabric adhesive!!



More sex with the gauges!!:



Now if some of you guys are wanting something like this gauge holder that is made to fit perfectly for YOUR vehicle (not that egay universal crap) let me know. I've got several friends that are letting me use their cars to mock up these block off/gauge holders for their year civics. So far were making these for the 88-91 civic, 92-95 civic, 96-98 civic, 99-00 civic single and double din sizes, 94-01 integra single and double din sizes, 02- up RSX, Honda Prelude and others coming soon. And the best part is say you only want a holder that can hold one or two gauges, but your car is boosted and you can't find a good place to mount you electronic boost controller or turbo timer and such. I'm currently getting the dimensions for all the popular electronics to include Greddy, Apexi, HKS, etc, etc. After I get these dimensions I will be able to cut out gauge holders that can also accomodate your electronics for a very clean look. Best part is I'm going to be selling these anywhere from $20.00- $30.00!!! Let me know what you want, I've included some pics of some of the R&D thats going into these things to get that perfect fit. I also recorded a video of the laser cutter in action, it's pretty nice that I'll post up as well. I'm going to try and have some of these on hand this weekend as I may ride out to Barrett Pkwy, so if you want to see one in person or buy one I'll be there.

Designed on CAD:



Computer generated picture:



Various pieces of cardboard (used for mock up), trying to get that perfect fit.



Finished product:



I just bought a huge sheet of black acrylic that I'll be using to make these, so the default color will always be black not clear lol.

Hope you liked the car, stay tuned as there is a lot more to come!!

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Dammmm thats gunna be a sick ride
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Vids are up
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I did the same thing with my gauges
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Ok so I used to be in the honda game way back in the day (about 7 years ago) so I'm just getting back into it thanks to the wife.....

This is "just getting back into it" Holy Crap.. good work.. btw, where'd you get that paint for interior? did you just use adhesion promoter and the black?
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This is "just getting back into it" Holy Crap.. good work.. btw, where'd you get that paint for interior? did you just use adhesion promoter and the black?
I got the paint at an automotive paint supply place name ACS in Cartersville Ga. I believe you can go on their website and find your nearest distributor. And yes all I used was the adhesion promoter and the black paint. I love this stuff, its a little expensive at $15.00 a can but it is well worth it. Thanks for the comments, stay tuned as I have plenty of other stuff coming soon.
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it doesn't appear you are running torque mounts in addition to the factory rubber mounts?
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it doesn't appear you are running torque mounts in addition to the factory rubber mounts?
You are partly correct, I'm running the transmission torque mount, but I'm having trouble locating the driver's side one. I'm also going to eventually swap the factory driver's side mount for an aftermarket one. Thanks for the comments.
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alright man, lets get a pic of the K9 unit vehicle.

Your car is dope.

what steps did you do to paint the interior?
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I first cleaned the plastic pieces with warm soap and water. I purchased one of those sanding pads thats the same consistency as a brilo pad and used it with the warm soapy water. Then that way the parts were getting cleaned and sanded at the same time. After that I wiped the entire pieces with rubbing alcohol before spraying it with the SEM XXX Adhesion Promotor. The key is to just mist the first coat of the XXX and slowly thicken up the second and third coats. I didn't put no more than 3 coats of the XXX on (just want even coverage). Allow about 5-7 minutes flash time between coats of XXX and 30 minutes flash time between the coats of XXX and your basecoat (color). After that I applied the first coat of SEM Laudau Black very thin. Depending on the size of the piece that your painting will determine how many coats. The smaller the piece the less coats and vice versa for a larger piece. The key is to allow at least 5-7 minutes flash time between coats and mist the coats on, don't cake it up or you'll have runs and have to start all over. My dash board was the biggest piece that I painted and I think I have 5-6 light coats on it, remember you just want even coverage. Also don't paint plastics on a cold or very humid day as it will cause a milky like film to form on top of the paint. Paint plastic on a warm day and allow the plastic to flash in direct sunlight. Everytime I finished a piece I would let it sit in the sun for about an hour before taking them inside to cure for at least 24 hours. After that you are ready to go. Just try to be patient and follow the steps to the T. If your like me you want to hurry up and get it all back in there, but for best results its better to take you time and follow the steps. What helped me alot is I Youtubed SEM Color Coat and found a video made by SEM that showed every step from A-Z, show check that out and it should get you started. Oh and wear a mask when you spray this stuff!!!
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Very nice build thread man, I like your project and got a few good laughs while reading (the "you'll be fine" comment regarding ugly welding was great).

I have a couple of questions regarding the interior:

I had already attempted to do this once using the Krylon Fusion for plastic paint. A little advise.....DON'T EVERY USE THIS ****!!!!
I used Krylon Fusion on my glove compartment and other small interior parts and it worked great man. It's been holding up perfectly for 4+ years. Did you take the same careful steps (wash with warm water and clean with alcohol) before you used the Krylon Fusion? Because that's what I did and I've been happy with the results (and I am extremely picky).

I'm getting the headliner, sunvisors and center arm rest all done in black suede with red stitching for the low ($110.00) and they do great work!!!
Can you hook it up with the contact info for this place? I have ITR interior on my EG and my headliner + door could use some black suede + red stitching love to match the seats. If you could PM, it would be great.

Thanks, keep up the good work and hope to see the beast in person soon.
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Amazing work! I love the interior, and that engine compartment is gorgeous.
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Very nice build thread man, I like your project and got a few good laughs while reading (the "you'll be fine" comment regarding ugly welding was great).

I have a couple of questions regarding the interior:

I used Krylon Fusion on my glove compartment and other small interior parts and it worked great man. It's been holding up perfectly for 4+ years. Did you take the same careful steps (wash with warm water and clean with alcohol) before you used the Krylon Fusion? Because that's what I did and I've been happy with the results (and I am extremely picky).

Can you hook it up with the contact info for this place? I have ITR interior on my EG and my headliner + door could use some black suede + red stitching love to match the seats. If you could PM, it would be great.

Thanks, keep up the good work and hope to see the beast in person soon.
Yeah I took similar steps in the prep as you did, I even went as far as priming all of the plastic surfaces before spraying. The only step that I didn't do that I did this time was you an adhesion promotor. The only real problems that I had with the Krylon brand is when I would have to flex the plastic while meneuvering it back into the car the paint just started flaking off in sheets. The other problem that I was having with the Krylon was when the inside temperatures of the car would start to rise the painted surfaces would start to become sticky, making it very unconfortable to rest your arm on while driving. After doing some research on the Krylon brand I noticed that alot of other people were having the same problem as I. In the end I sure do wish that the Krylon brand worked for me because it would have been a 1/3 of the cost of SEM and half the work (if the Krylon had worked for me the first time). And the name of the upholsterers is Wilson's Upholstery, they are located in Rockmart Ga and do very good work. The only drawback is its a family run busy and they are always backed up so be prepared to wait a little while for your parts to be finished. I can't wait until my parts are completed, I will post a couple of pics when I recieve them.
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Little update: had a little issue while driving on the highway today. Some of my bolts on my turbo manifold where it bolts to the turbo started to do the jig and decided they didn't want to stay for the after party lol!! Ok sorry about that anyway 3 of my 4 bolts unbolted themselves even though I had a decent amount of thread locker on them. Man did I get lucky, but after a trip to the hardware store and a call to one of our fellow Honda Tech members, my problem is fixed and gave me just enough excuse to just go ahead and buy a equal length manifold. So hopefully by Tuesday I'll be sportin a new manifold and 3" down pipe FTW!! As always thanks for the compliments!!
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Hey man did you leave the dash in the car when you painted it? Just wondering because I want to change color from tan to black and ive heard of people just leaving the dash in, and taping off the window and etc.
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Yeah I took similar steps in the prep as you did, I even went as far as priming all of the plastic surfaces before spraying. The only step that I didn't do that I did this time was you an adhesion promotor. The only real problems that I had with the Krylon brand is when I would have to flex the plastic while meneuvering it back into the car the paint just started flaking off in sheets. The other problem that I was having with the Krylon was when the inside temperatures of the car would start to rise the painted surfaces would start to become sticky, making it very unconfortable to rest your arm on while driving. After doing some research on the Krylon brand I noticed that alot of other people were having the same problem as I. In the end I sure do wish that the Krylon brand worked for me because it would have been a 1/3 of the cost of SEM and half the work (if the Krylon had worked for me the first time).
I wonder if perhaps the primer is what caused the issue (primer not required for Krylon Fusion), but either way I haven't painted any pieces that required flexing during reinstall, so perhaps I might have encountered the same issues as you down the road. Thanks for the heads up on the SEM stuff.

And the name of the upholsterers is Wilson's Upholstery, they are located in Rockmart Ga and do very good work. The only drawback is its a family run busy and they are always backed up so be prepared to wait a little while for your parts to be finished. I can't wait until my parts are completed, I will post a couple of pics when I recieve them.
Awesome, thanks for hooking it up.
I am in no rush. I guess I'll have to find an excuse for a trip all the way to Rockmart.
Time to find out how to cleanly remove the door panel cloth for my hatch.
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