Eg5ir1

(PROBLEM SOLVED)


Hello H.T. I am somewhat new to this site but not to the Honda scene but I am having trouble with the steering in my 92 honda civic 3dr vx. I recently replaced all the bushings with the es master bushing kit and I also bought a new rack n pinion (manual). Along with that I replaced upper and lower ball joints and new outer tie rods as well. So basically everything is brand new so I don't understand why there is a squeak when I move the steering wheel to either direction.

Sounds like this

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WKrd5KBTcH8.




UPDATE!! Well I just took out the rack n pinion and I turned the spindle that leads to the steering wheel and it seems a bit ruff . Idk if it's because it's new and hasnt broken in yet but compared to my old rack n pinion it's somewhat ruff. I turned the spindle on the old rack and it was smooth like butter.

I have searched and searched but everything I have found says to replace something because it maybe worn out so I will really appreciate your advice/help. Thanks in advance.

jbpnoman

It sounds like you didn't lube the bushings before you installed them.

grumblemarc

iTrader: (4)

^Winner! That would be my first guess but...
Is that IN the cabin coming from the steering wheel itself? My wife's does that when it's really cold. If not you need to get under the car while someone else turns the wheel and track down the source of the noise. You'll never find it doing what you're doing in the video.

jbpnoman

I'm not bipolar, I'm bi-winning!

Eg5ir1

The video is one off YouTube it just sounds like that .

What bushings need to be lubed?. I lubed all of them I just wanna know so I can go back a relube everything again. When I turn the wheel from the outside(driverside) it doesn't sound like if its coming from the bushings it sounds like if its coming from the rack itself. Is there anyway the rack n pinion can be bolted on too tight? I couldn't find the torque specs so I gave that baby all I had lol. Don't have a second pair of hands right now to turn the wheel while i investigate, so as soon as I get a pair and get to the bottom of where exactly The noise is coming from I will update.

Eg5ir1

98civdx

What kind of rack did you use? What kind of tie rods/ball joints did you use?

grumblemarc

iTrader: (4)

Why are you even bumping this?

Eg5ir1

Oem replacement Rack (manual). The ball joints are fine. I unbolted the rods off the knuckles and just turned the wheel and still made that noise so it's the rack for sure

Eg5ir1

Well Grumpy because , I have to take out the rack n pinion to figure out the problem and it's a pain in the ***.

Eg5ir1

Does a new manual rack n pinion need to be broken in?

98civdx

No. Repalce the rack.


OEM replacement as in, parts store replacement, or an actual Honda peice?

Eg5ir1

Not Honda oem piece. Lol I wish I could afford brand new oem . It's aftermarket replacement. I took off the whole assembly and it (feels) as if the rubber/plastic seal that goes around the spindle to the steering column is real tight around the spindle. The spindle spins with no squeak but the spin isn't as Smooth as the one I replaced.

Eg5ir1

Problem solved. Took apart the rack n pinion and it ended up being a rubber seal on the passenger side of the rack that was a little bit toooooo tight. I gave it a little bit of sanding just to give it that little extra room to still squeeze in there but not to tight and added a lot of extra grease since I was already in there and then installed it and the squeak wet away. Thanks everyone for your help.

mique.munoz

thnks bro my car was doing the same !! same noise i just lube the rack and pinion conection and lose the bolt a little and it works good lets see how much it last thnks alot ! ^^