CardDealer

Modified by CardDealer at 9:39 AM 1/2/2007

EG2Driver

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CardDealer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If your spindle nut is loose, will that allow your hub to wobble? I thought the only way the hub could ever wobble is if either the bearing or balljoints were bad.</TD></TR></TABLE>

axle nut you mean? I dont think the knuckle would move if it was loose, so you thought correctly

Blk00EJ8

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DeadEnd9009 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

axle nut you mean? I dont think the knuckle would move if it was loose, so you thought correctly</TD></TR></TABLE>

I second, I don't think it would wobble if it was loose.

EX-T

I disagree with both of the on the simple fact that my axle was seized into my hub and we used PB Blaster, acetylene torch, and a huge hammer and rubber mallet and it would not come out. With the head and the hammer/mallet, we managed to mushroom the tip of the axle making it impossible to get the axle nut the thread right so, I just used the impact to get it as tight as I thought was good and be done with it. Well, driving down the road and making a right turn (it was my driver's side axle) you could hear and feel a very faint clicking/popping (it wasn't the cv boots cuz I checked). So I jacked the car up and sure enough I could shake the wheel back and forth and here the hub/axle nut clanking together. So I tightened the axle nut down some more and basically got rid of the noise.

EG2Driver

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doesn't make sense theorically....it only holds the axle to the knuckle....you could yank off the axle with the engine out, it holds none of the wheel or weight.

What happened to you was more like a case of a "wobbling" axle.

EX-T

If the axle nut isn't tight, the hub/wheel bearing will be able to slide in and out on the spindle!

Blk00EJ8

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EX-T &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If the axle nut isn't tight, the hub/wheel bearing will be able to slide in and out on the spindle! </TD></TR></TABLE>

But based on the geometry of the suspension, you can't pull the axle out unless you loosen one of the arms. Why? Because the suspension only travels vertically. That clicking/popping sound was probably just the axle nut making contact with the hub as you turned because the axle has some give, that's how it can stay attached to the hub when the suspension moves up and down.

The hub wasn't necessarily moving back and forth, the axle and axle nut was.

EG2Driver

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EKcivicEX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
The hub wasn't necessarily moving back and forth, the axle and axle nut was.</TD></TR></TABLE>

what i tried to say

Kruzen510

if your axle nut is loose, your axle will move around a bit ( feels like it wobbles when you do a back and forth motion) but your hub will not wobble since it's tied to the lca, uca, and tie rod, those would have to be bad for it to wobble..

Evs-One

the axle nut preloads the wheel bearing into the spindle.

So, YES, if it is loose, you wheel bearing preload will not be in spec and will allow for slight to major play in the wheel/toe geometry.

This is why there is a torque spec... about 131 ft lbs for Civics(131 or 134...close enough)....Anything tighter can put TOO much load on the bearing and can make it overheat. Not enough can cause the bearing to become sloppy.

Evs-One

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kruzen510 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if your axle nut is loose, your axle will move around a bit ( feels like it wobbles when you do a back and forth motion) but your hub will not wobble since it's tied to the lca, uca, and tie rod, those would have to be bad for it to wobble.. </TD></TR></TABLE>

the hub is pressed into the wheel bearing which is pressed into the spindle. It's pressed in but still needs to be preloaded...hence the torque spec etc. If the nut was ONLY to hold in the axle, torque spec wouldn't need to be so high and the nut wouldn't need to be so big.

CardDealer

Modified by CardDealer at 9:39 AM 1/2/2007

EG2Driver

soemething is wrong with the bearing.....go back to where you had it done and ask them to fix it.

Evs-One

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DeadEnd9009 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">soemething is wrong with the bearing.....go back to where you had it done and ask them to fix it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

you're just full of wonderful ideas

Sounds like they didn't press the wheel bearing in far enough to install the ring clip...Check your PM again!