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Old 12-29-2008, 08:05 AM
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okay if i speed shift my car will i end up droppin my tranny oor will it be okay
what i mean by speed siftin is while changin gears dont let off the gas then push in clutch change gear fast then let of clutch without lettin off the gas at all
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done that before. depending on if you do it right or not. clutch or syncro's will go. (if done incorrectly)
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the way i explained it was the correct way right?
Old 12-29-2008, 08:21 AM
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i'd rather rev match then anything else. which'll save everything.
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rev match??
Old 12-29-2008, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Anon51
i'd rather rev match then anything else. which'll save everything.
rev matching doesn't apply here. and "speed siftin" is something i do to a fresh bag that may have some seeds
Anyways, not taking your foot off the gas when shifting will cause unusual wear on both the engine and tranny...mostly the drivetrain in this case. The increased revs when slamming gears will put a little more wear on your clutch and if you're shifting that fast you're probably not giving the trans enough time to preoperly disengauge the clutch and change cogs which will wear your syncros....I wouldn't recommend this "speed shifting" to anyone cuz in reality this will only yield you a better time by a hundreth of a second or less, so its really not worth it. Be good to your car and it will be good to you, abuse your car and the car will abuse your wallet.
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Without using the clutch, lightly tap the throttle and you should be able to pull the transmission out of gear easily, match the speed of the engine to the speed you are going (on my LX, the gears are about 800RPMs apart) and with very little pressure on the shifter, it should slide into gear without grinding.

I agree with Mr. Chow, rev matching doesn't apply. It's more just for cruising, not racing.

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yeah u can shift without letting off the throttle.it just hurts ur clutch as much as launching does everytime u shift like that.to be honest though u can shift just as fast letting off the throttle.btw yeah rev match is for cruising not racing and i think its useless unless ur clutch is bad
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wtf... You guys are true F&F.

Rev matching is in a down shifting process, Not up.

**** it Im not even going to explain it to you.. Thread Fail
Old 12-29-2008, 10:35 AM
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wtf... You guys are true F&F.

Rev matching is in a down shifting process, Not up.

**** it Im not even going to explain it to you.. Thread Fail
lol yeah the guy just took us way off topic with rev matching.
Old 12-29-2008, 10:49 AM
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WTF has this turned into? Asking if it's alright to be a ****ing tool and beat up his car while probly endangering others. "Speed Sift" into the nearest wall please
Old 12-29-2008, 10:54 AM
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rev matching and power shifting after two different things. power shift.. i dont see how it cant be bad for your tranny/clutch.
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Originally Posted by CTR_B
wtf... You guys are true F&F.

Rev matching is in a down shifting process, Not up.

**** it Im not even going to explain it to you.. Thread Fail
first of all, you fail, cause you can rev match when shifting up, you just wait for the rpms to drop then shift.

and yea, rev matching doesnt apply here.

also, what your calling "speed shifting" (i call it power shift) isnt the best for yout tranny, unless you have a good virgin tranny. if your new to this concept i wouldnt try it on a new tranny, because youll prolly make it go to ****. so you have to be good, and fast. i think most of the time when peoples gears start to go bad its because they ground the 3rd gear synchros and just starts all going down hill from there.

but....if you drive a fast car and have antilag, then its ok. just dont screw up.
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lmao yes sir i use to power shift my *** off but now i have boost so i granny shift its great
Old 12-31-2008, 04:27 PM
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ripping out syncros ftw!!!!! Thats one reason why people get lighter fly wheels. You need to just let rpms drop and shift for correctness, and lighter fly wheels allow it to drop faster
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with boost you go through the gears so much faster making it more easily to grind or miss a gear.

wish i had enough money to afford dog gears. that would be baller!


edit: lighter flywheels arent good with boost.
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^ why arent they good with boost
Old 12-31-2008, 05:23 PM
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Ive been powershifting a lot for the past six months in my 95 civic cx because I hate the motor and tranny. Its is grinding third a lot now after it gets warmed up but the engine is fine. Also I have a ls swap w/b16 tranny waiting to go in so I can kill this 70hp d15. After I swap it in I will not powershift very often or at all. You WILL start grinding 3rd and it will only get worse.
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rpms just have to be correct (have to drop enough) for shifting unless you have a tranny built for it. Speed shifting will lead to grinding and pre-mature clutch wear, bottom line.
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a really light flywheel combined with a decent sized turbo may take longer to see full boost, or easier to fall out of boost between shifts. you lose rotating mass with a light flywheel. for boost...i think around 12 lbs is good. which is still a lot lighter than the stock 18lb flywheels. 8lb of rotating mass = 100lbs of actual dead weight.

ive read that another reason its not that great to have a really light flywheel when turbod is because at the track, when you launch, there isnt that much rotating mass so the clutch will just grab and the motor will bog.
Old 12-31-2008, 07:35 PM
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yes, the you do lose inertia buts its basically a trade that you have to find the "sweet spot" in. More interia (heavier fly wheel) is kind of like having more tq temporarily though. I would think you would hit boost sooner though, but i could see fallen out of boost maybe. Its understandable, and debatable i guess
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yea, i think the stock 18lb is too much and 7.5lb is too light. i think around 12lbs is ideal.
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This really needed to be said ...



Granny Shiftin', not double-clutchin' like yah should.
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"Your gonna blow the welds on the intake"
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