hatch96y7

does anybody do this wheever im driving i often dont use the clutch only when im in first and the rest of the gears i can just eas them in in the right manner is this good or bad for ur transmmision i rarely grind the gears when doing this

I Got The Juice Now

i think that only works on muscle cars, if your tranny grinds its deff not good..

why not just pop the clutch? your tranny will last longer

hatch96y7

because i figured it will let the clutch last longer since im not using it

bleakdragonmage

so your logic is Extended clutch life which = saving 150 for a new clutch
Or burning out your trans...which is about 3-700 depending on what motor you have...
You get an A+ in Mathematics...

Sean @ ESG

iTrader: (1)

thats the most ridiculous thing i've ever heard

Han Solo

haha, this is almost funny, i feel sorry for ur car

jdmztrane

Please sell your car and get a mountain bike. That way you dont have to push any clutches and you can throw it through the gears. The clutch in a manual transmission car is there for a reason. If youre too damn lazy to use it, gtfo and buy and auto!

eeleaj

dude what is wrong with you??? your saying you shift gears without pressing in the clutch pedal . when you hear your tranny grinding do you see people in cars around you look your way?? yeah they look because theyre probably like" what the hell is wrong with that guy??" please stop grinding your gears and get an automatic or a b*tchshift if you dont like pressing in the clutch pedal

hatch96y7

y are all u guys talking **** i grind my gear probly once in along while and its not that i dont want to use the clutch its just i can shift in a more calm manner my dad taught me this and it has do to do with the timming of the transmmision where as u dont need the clutch if any of u ***** want to try it get out of first and at about 2200 t0 2500 drop ur gear into second not fast like ur racing but normal and it will slip in with no problem and u will feel ur shifter actually slide out of gear just as if u were using ur clutch and go into gear

project_delta

Shifting like that is extremely hard on your synchros. Basically what you are doing is trying to match the input shaft speed (engine rpm) with the output shaft speed (vehicle speed) at precisely the correct time so that the gears will mesh together. It's pretty much impossible to get it exactly right, so your synchros basically have to work against the torque from your engine and/or the forward momentum of your car to make up for the difference in rotational speeds of the shafts. It doesn't take a genius to realize it's gonna be hell for your synchros. Use the clutch, that's why it's there.

hatch96y7

and if any of u in ca want to come down to my pad to show u exactly how it works thats coo and u will see no grinding whatsoever

project_delta

Oh yeah, forgot to mention. Even if you don't grind the gears, it's still super hard on the synchros. It only grinds when the synchros can't handle the extra load in time to make the shift. When you hear that grind noise, that's the sound of the teeth on the synchro sleeve and the teeth on the gears grinding eachother down. Do that too many times and you won't be able to shift at all.

Kruzen510

ha ha this thread is funny. keep it up, your the one thats gonna have to pay for it in the long run.

hatch96y7

i dont think that true because ive been doing this for two years nowand my dad to when he had my car

eetmaishiet

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hatch96y7 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">y are all u guys talking **** i grind my gear probly once in along while and its not that i dont want to use the clutch its just i can shift in a more calm manner my dad taught me this and it has do to do with the timming of the transmmision where as u dont need the clutch if any of u ***** want to try it get out of first and at about 2200 t0 2500 drop ur gear into second not fast like ur racing but normal and it will slip in with no problem and u will feel ur shifter actually slide out of gear just as if u were using ur clutch and go into gear </TD></TR></TABLE>

Wow, not a period in sight. Sorry it made me laugh .

eeleaj

if you intist you can do thats koo . theres stuff done that i dont even know about, this being one of them. and if you shift at 2200-2500 man you gotta be a really slow driver i'd hate to be behind you on the road

dpaton

If you rev match the trans while it's in neutral (between the gears) it works fine, I've done it, but it unless you've got a broken left foot and you slip the hell out of the clutch, you're not saving anything at all. Ask the factory clutch on my old CRX which went 196k miles of normal driving and never slipped.

If you're racing, well, double clutching into neutral and rev matching can be a lot faster if you practice.

Shifting without the clutch? No reason at all with modern vehicles.

eeleaj

hey i was also wondering when you shift do you do it really slow or do you drop it in really fast?? also i wouldnt call that speed shifting if you are shifting at 2.2 -2.5

Project22a

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dpaton &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you're racing, well, double clutching into neutral and rev matching can be a lot faster if you practice. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I hope you're not talking about upshifting

hatch96y7

you do it slow and as the rpms drop just as if u were driving like a normal person not a bat out of hell it works fine try it

hatch96y7

maybe ill make a video of it

bleakdragonmage

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hatch96y7 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you do it slow and as the rpms drop just as if u were driving like a normal person not a bat out of hell it works fine try it</TD></TR></TABLE>

id rather not try..i happen to like my transmission....thanks anyways though

turbociviccoupe

seen it done before...its retarded...just use the clutch thats whats its made for.

DaveSi677

ok I do it at least once when I drive. Come guys you are freaking out for nothing... its not rocket science what he is doing. He is just shifting with out the clutch. And yes I know we got a clutch in the car but doesn't mean you have to use all the time. I usually do this when I rev match to a lower gear and in 4 years of driving I have never grinded.

Dave

JeffBro

lol I saw someone do this one time on an old honda civic wagon and it was very amusing. I think there was a reason all major car companies today use a clutch with a conventional manual transmission. I think it has something to do with the transmission being a little bit more expensive than a clutch.