1nsoman1ac

hahahaha ftw lmao. alright. pb blaster it is. and a better ratchet. lol.

cocolate and penut butter are the best sandwiches.

JarvisW

Oh, and if you have an impact gun or wrench, put it on low psi, and it can kinda knock it loose. Once again too much torque will be very bad for your head. But low pressure vibrations will help the PB penetrate.

Or, just soak it with PB, it may take a couple days, but it will eventually work its way thru.

6footmidget

hmm i dont understand why people said let it warm up, metal gets warm and expands and it will be tighter, and if it wont budge then youll strip it because if you look at other bolts that wont move and you give it too much force, your tool will slip and strip it then youre stuck with a spark plug in your motor, but i dont have advice on what to do, just telling you what not to do :]

1nsoman1ac

good info jarvis..keep it comin'. thats what she said hahaha lamo. wow. im so dumb.

and 6footmidget...any advice is bettetr than none! thank you

JarvisW

Well, thats all I got. Shot the load. lol.

Like I said, and you can do this by hand with a rubber mallet and a ratchet. Tappin the ratchet while holding it tight can make some vibrations. But really, thats hazardous too. An impact gun on low PSI will do that with no risk of twistin it or your hands in weird ways lol. It could also bust it loose. But I wouldn't use it on the setting they use to take Lug Nuts off with, but a nice 2-3 beats a sec (instead of 30 or so lol)( you can kinda feel whats right) will help it loosen.

Worst comes to worse, you can remove the head, flip it over, and PB the underside! lol

Kidding, it will work eventually.

waaBAAH

i know impact guns and what they accomplish.. but in this case i would advise against it.

breaker bar/cheater bar is really the only option if you really wnat the plugs out.

like someone said earlier.. gms and some new model fords (gm's being the worst) actually have TSB's on plugs breaking in the head. i have fallen victim to some of these cars. if i recall correctly they do call for some sort of penetrating oil and working of the plug back and forth and of course it is always the hardest to reach one and never the plug up close easilly accessible. lol

i cant picture all four being stuck like this. use more force.

1nsoman1ac

wow...so i sprayed some pb in there today at aorund 12...then came home at 8, took the lug wrench from a 92 camero, shoved the end of the ratchet in the ukin hole in the end of the wrench and guess what? pulled the dam plugs out.....didnt strip anything....cylinder 3 and 4 made this wawful sound as metal scraped on metal lol and i was liek oh **** lol. but when i took out, they were thread free...

thank you all for all the advice.

TravisCadello

ya, that noise you hear i always hear. even if i don't tighten them that much. So how did the plugs look?

1nsoman1ac

well i couldnt tell...the pb blaster soaked the hell out of them...so anythign bad on them dissolved
or was lubed up to the point where they were all black...i mena there definatley was black ****...but like i know its from everyday driving.

Dangousity

You can also tighten the plug 1 degree then remove the plug, it helps if the the steel and alum did fuse. Trust me in helicopters you have alot of alum/steel bonding bolts

gotz2b16

take it to a shop and let them **** it up so you can have them fix it for next to nothing.. =]

waaBAAH

OP already took them out. lol

good job man... so for future reference...

HIT IT WITH YOUR PURSE!!! lol

gotz2b16

One problem tho..

YOU HAVE NO Vrrrrrrrrroooo-VVVVEEEEETAAAAAAAAKKKKK!!! lol!

1nsoman1ac

lmao i will definately remember that. "hit it with your purse"...hahahahaha still makes me laugh. how do you do those signature things where people post quotes and **** at the bottom of their posts? cuz im gonna it mine lol.

and i have another problem..... B sixteeennn aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa head coming in the mail. lol. im thinking the b16A top and b18b bottom end will be a decent upgrade. but idk. what do you guys think? and how much work is there involved in making the b16a fit? i heard somethign about someting having to be removed from the block to create the port for oil flow and somehting adding on to it?

JarvisW

Hey great you got them out. Squeeks I wouldn't have been worried too much about. It means its moving. When I lost my head, it didnt make any noise, it just kinda snapped loose!

I would still advise against too much torque, but, with Honda motors so cheap, I guess I shouldn't worry so much.

Pothole987

Excellent news you got them free. make sure you check the gap and clean them good, and put antisieze on them so you don't have to go through this again.

ricoshademan

definately an airflow problem

JKov240

Unless the shop you're taking it to is half-retarded, they won't touch it once they realize that the spark plugs are seized up.

bsivoljr

^^^LMFAO SPINAL

98civtec

use an impact wrench that would work lol

thumper64

Expansion coefficients. Different metals expand at different rates and different amounts. Example, your valve guides are bronze (I think) and the head is aluminum. Try to smack the guides out with the head cold and you damage the head, but heat the head up and the guides will press out without inflicting damage.

EDIT: Definitely a reason to use antiseize.