spark plug wires
#3
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Re: spark plug wires (b16_egr6)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b16_egr6 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im lookin for 1.6 spark plug wires for a vtec head (sohc) i dnt have permission to post anywhere else can anyone help me?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I would stay with OEM plug wires unless you have a completely upgraded ignition and fuel system otherwise OEM are going to give you plenty of spark.
I would stay with OEM plug wires unless you have a completely upgraded ignition and fuel system otherwise OEM are going to give you plenty of spark.
#4
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Re: spark plug wires (b16_egr6)
You need to go to the dealer and buy O.E Honda wires and nothing else.
NGK is NOT O.E!!! Plugs? Yes. Wires? No.
Sumitomo is O.E and can be found at your local dealer. Do not buy the bullshit hype that aftermarket "performance" wires are better, because they are not at all.
If you want dyno charts and a write-up telling why brand new NGK wires did not dyno as well as 10 year old Honda wires i'm sure I can find you the link.
NGK is NOT O.E!!! Plugs? Yes. Wires? No.
Sumitomo is O.E and can be found at your local dealer. Do not buy the bullshit hype that aftermarket "performance" wires are better, because they are not at all.
If you want dyno charts and a write-up telling why brand new NGK wires did not dyno as well as 10 year old Honda wires i'm sure I can find you the link.
#5
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Re: spark plug wires (B18C5-EH2)
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If you want dyno charts and a write-up telling why brand new NGK wires did not dyno as well as 10 year old Honda wires i'm sure I can find you the link.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Tom, I've been looking for the link to that page with the plug wire dyno charts forever. Do you know where it is?
If you want dyno charts and a write-up telling why brand new NGK wires did not dyno as well as 10 year old Honda wires i'm sure I can find you the link.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Tom, I've been looking for the link to that page with the plug wire dyno charts forever. Do you know where it is?
#6
Former Moderator
Re: spark plug wires (Targa250R)
Originally Posted by Targa250R
Tom, I've been looking for the link to that page with the plug wire dyno charts forever. Do you know where it is?
Here it is:
Here you go:
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Aftermarket cable number 1 represents the generic 8mm silicon 'high performance' replacement cables. Often these cables are marketed by performing a side-by-side comparison on a special setup where first the stock cable are used to connect a spark-plug to an ignition coil. The sparks produced at the plug will be seen to be weak and dull. Next, replacement of the 8mm silicon cable will be done and now the sparks at the plug can clearly be seen to be bright and strong. From this 'conclusive' demonstration, the benefits to power output will be inferred. I will not be embarrassed to admit that I myself have bought three sets of such cables in my earlier Honda ownership days (when I was driving SOHC engine models), often being conclusively convinced by the demonstration and then actually believing that I felt improvements from the cables. I have owned this cable for about 5 years, using them on and off.
Aftermarket cable number 2 is the famous NGK 'blue' cable, ie NGK Hyper Silicon. Having the same diameter as stock cables (and thus the added advantage of direct replacement), the NGK is a cable that even HKS has recommended over stock. The logic given was often that the NGK will last longer than stock as well as the typical giving 'better' spark benefits. In fact, the box that the NGK comes in has a claim of 130% better sparks - hence more power from the engine. The NGK cables are brand new, and supplied by Dynojet Far East to help settle the debate.
The dyno runs were performed immediately one after the other, with only the minimum of delay necessitated by having to switch off the engine to replace the plug cables. To get straight to the point, the three dyno runs are produced below. The power curves are: green is for the stock cable, red for the generic 8mm silicon, and blue for the NGK blue cable.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The car used is a JDM Honda Integra XSi with the B16A engine. The stock plug cable has been in use for the better part of 8 years. At this age, many will begin recommending their replacement by aftermarket cables, often citing that they will be worn out and thus not giving good sparks.
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Here's the link to the chart:
http://www.vtec.net/articles/view-ar...rticle_id=8680
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The actual power outputs are not crucial and have been removed from the charts to make the comparison more straightforward. The most important point from the charts is that the stock spark-plug cables produced the highest and most consistent power curve. The most significant factor is the smoothness of the stock cable's power curve. Both the 'generic' 8mm silicon cable and the NGK were seen to be misfiring as evidenced by their jagged curves after 5000rpm and especially in the VTEC rpm band. Both 8mm silicon and NGK delivered about the same max power which is about 1ps lower than that produced by the stock cables. Note that the stock cables, although 8 years old, consistently produced better power all across the dynoed rpm band, 3000rpm till the 8000rpm red-line. Especially surprising is the fact that the stock cables did not misfire, thus proving that they produce more consistent sparks even compared to the brand new and supposedly superior NGK blue cables !
The results although probably shocking to many enthusiasts are in fact what have often been recommended by the best tuners. Many enthusiasts naturally are reluctant to accept the fact, no matter how highly they respect those tuners but with this comparison, TOVA hopes that the question have been conclusively answered and the debates are now closed. Stock spark-plug cables are the best !
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Booyaka!
#7
be professional
Re: spark plug wires (B18C5-EH2)
Wow, that was quick - I was only halfway down the page of search results
Thanks, that will be very useful for future occurences of this topic.
Thanks, that will be very useful for future occurences of this topic.
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#8
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Re: spark plug wires (Targa250R)
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Thanks, that will be very useful for future occurences of this topic. </TD></TR></TABLE>
You mean later on today?
Thanks, that will be very useful for future occurences of this topic. </TD></TR></TABLE>
You mean later on today?
#11
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Re: spark plug wires (jwn7)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jwn7 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wow i just wasted 50 bucks on ngk wires from honda.
good info ... i guess </TD></TR></TABLE>
That's very odd that a Honda delaer would sell you NGK wires rather than the O.E ones.
The O.E Honda ones cost around $50.00 too depending on the model of the car/engine too.
Are the ones they sold you the NGK "Blue" wires?
good info ... i guess </TD></TR></TABLE>
That's very odd that a Honda delaer would sell you NGK wires rather than the O.E ones.
The O.E Honda ones cost around $50.00 too depending on the model of the car/engine too.
Are the ones they sold you the NGK "Blue" wires?
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