spark plug of cyl 3&4 smell like gas and are wet car wont start
09-02-2008, 09:01 AM
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spark plug of cyl 3&4 smell like gas and are wet car wont start
spark plug of cyl 3&4 smell like gas and are wet car wont start but 1&2 are good. after swapping my head my car wont start. it was a simple d16y8 block with a y7 head. the y8 head was bad so im using the y7 head with the y8 computer. there should be no problems doing this.
when i press the gas pedal when it starts...it takes like 10 seconds to rev. it idles low at like 100. blob blob blob blob blob
whats the problem here?
could it be the clips on the injectors switched around? i dont think thats the case but could it be?
when i press the gas pedal when it starts...it takes like 10 seconds to rev. it idles low at like 100. blob blob blob blob blob
whats the problem here?
could it be the clips on the injectors switched around? i dont think thats the case but could it be?
09-02-2008, 09:08 AM
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Re: spark plug of cyl 3&4 smell like gas and are wet car wont start (thebleek)
Have you tried doing a compression test to make sure you didnt throw a rod, or blow an oil ring off the piston ?
09-02-2008, 09:12 AM
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Re: spark plug of cyl 3&4 smell like gas and are wet car wont start (1slowhx)
o-rings on injectors are good
motor was perfect before i had the tapping valve on thje old head
when i start it, its like blop blop blop[ blop like i have some v8 racecar
could it be the intake manifold i have has the fuel injection air valve and its not mating up with the y7 head?
motor was perfect before i had the tapping valve on thje old head
when i start it, its like blop blop blop[ blop like i have some v8 racecar
could it be the intake manifold i have has the fuel injection air valve and its not mating up with the y7 head?
09-02-2008, 10:29 AM
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Re: spark plug of cyl 3&4 smell like gas and are wet car wont start (thebleek)
well i plugged the iacv hole in the throttle body and i can hear a sucking vacuum noise somewhere.
my car died like 10 sec after plugging it
my car died like 10 sec after plugging it
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09-02-2008, 01:03 PM
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check your timing, firing order, and make sure you plugged everything in tight. I spent and entire day once trying figure out why my engine would barely start after doing a swap, turned out I only half plugged in the shock tower plug for the injectors so that only 2 injectors worked and intermitantly at that.
09-02-2008, 01:25 PM
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i found out my timing is wrong. when i set my crank to TDC my cam gear was 180' like you know how its supossed to be UP when your crank is at tdc?
well my UP is on the bottom.
SO HOW DO I FIX CAM TIMING?
this is nuts! how can i fix my cam timing to TDC without messing up my bottom ends tdc???????????
well my UP is on the bottom.
SO HOW DO I FIX CAM TIMING?
this is nuts! how can i fix my cam timing to TDC without messing up my bottom ends tdc???????????
09-02-2008, 01:37 PM
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how do i time it? just grab a socket and put it around the cam gear and turn it until it says "UP" ? with the timing belt off of course
now i know why my cylinders 3&4 flooded...because my timing is prolly 180 off right?
now i know why my cylinders 3&4 flooded...because my timing is prolly 180 off right?
09-02-2008, 01:40 PM
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Thats how I've always done mine. Everytime I time a honda I end up having to do it several times and I have no idea why, I have the manuals, even the real honda one, and i've done it several times and I always have trouble with it, its the only thing I really just consistantly can't get right and I have no idea why.
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so all ill need to do is put a socket on the cam gear and turn it and turn it until the up is on top, right? [tdc]
and thanks for the help bro. i hope my motor isnt [freak]ed up. i took the plugs and wires out, but the valve cover was still on. and it got rained on for like 1 minute. but when i start my car itll all just burn up right?
Modified by thebleek at 3:24 PM 9/2/2008
and thanks for the help bro. i hope my motor isnt [freak]ed up. i took the plugs and wires out, but the valve cover was still on. and it got rained on for like 1 minute. but when i start my car itll all just burn up right?
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09-02-2008, 02:36 PM
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Re: (94EG8)
you know how there are 3 marks then 1 by itself. which one is considered tdc?
its like...
....|...|...| .............. | <-- its this one right all by itself
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its like...
....|...|...| .............. | <-- its this one right all by itself
Modified by thebleek at 3:45 PM 9/2/2008
09-02-2008, 02:49 PM
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Re: (thebleek)
Its the white one, sorry my diagram kinda sucks. If this is for the engine timing and not the ignition timing just use the mark on the small timing belt pulley on the crank and line it up with the mark on the block.
09-02-2008, 02:51 PM
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Re: (94EG8)
i dont even see a diagram?
and ignition timing all i need to do is turn the cam gear until UP is pointing UP right?
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and ignition timing all i need to do is turn the cam gear until UP is pointing UP right?
Modified by thebleek at 5:09 PM 9/2/2008
09-02-2008, 02:53 PM
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Re: (94EG8)
you know how there are 3 marks then 1 by itself. which one is considered tdc?
its like...
| | | | <-- its this one right all by itself
its like...
| | | | <-- its this one right all by itself
09-02-2008, 02:56 PM
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Re: (thebleek)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thebleek »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i dont even see a diagram?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I never posted one, i was just refering to one i was looking off of. I have a better one somewhere.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thebleek »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and ignition timing all i need to do is turn the cam gear until UP is pointing UP right?</TD></TR></TABLE> Ignition timing you need a timing light for, I have yet check ignition timing for the following 2 reasons: A. I don't have a timing light. and B. i scribe a mark across the top of the distributor mounting flange and the cam cap so i can put it back exactly where I took it off.
I never posted one, i was just refering to one i was looking off of. I have a better one somewhere.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thebleek »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and ignition timing all i need to do is turn the cam gear until UP is pointing UP right?</TD></TR></TABLE> Ignition timing you need a timing light for, I have yet check ignition timing for the following 2 reasons: A. I don't have a timing light. and B. i scribe a mark across the top of the distributor mounting flange and the cam cap so i can put it back exactly where I took it off.
09-02-2008, 02:59 PM
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Re: (94EG8)
as long as i turn the cam gear to where it says UP and its facing up[TDC], then i can reinstall the timing belt back on and itll work right? since my lower end is already tdc?
let me reexplain the problem.
my bottom end is at TDC, when its at tdc instead of my CAM gear having UP point UP its pointing down
let me reexplain the problem.
my bottom end is at TDC, when its at tdc instead of my CAM gear having UP point UP its pointing down
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thebleek »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">as long as i turn the cam gear to where it says UP and its facing up[TDC], then i can reinstall the timing belt back on and itll work right? since my lower end is already tdc?
let me reexplain the problem.
my bottom end is at TDC, when its at tdc instead of my CAM gear having UP point UP its pointing down</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah, basically, just make sure when you tension the belt you rotate it couple of times to check that its still right before you put it all back together.
let me reexplain the problem.
my bottom end is at TDC, when its at tdc instead of my CAM gear having UP point UP its pointing down</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah, basically, just make sure when you tension the belt you rotate it couple of times to check that its still right before you put it all back together.
09-02-2008, 04:11 PM
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ok well i redid my timing took the belt off
lined up the crank at tdc the mark that was all by itself on the belt wheel
took the belt off, made the cam gear point up [tdc]
and i started the car and it was like i didnt do anything different. im getting the same ****.
i dont know if its because i didnt spray anything on my headgasket[it had that black tacky stuff on it already so i didnt]
or if its because im putting a y7 head and using a y8 intake manifold with air injection
lined up the crank at tdc the mark that was all by itself on the belt wheel
took the belt off, made the cam gear point up [tdc]
and i started the car and it was like i didnt do anything different. im getting the same ****.
i dont know if its because i didnt spray anything on my headgasket[it had that black tacky stuff on it already so i didnt]
or if its because im putting a y7 head and using a y8 intake manifold with air injection
09-02-2008, 04:36 PM
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^^^
also im getting mil 92 = Improper purge flow???
and 22 = vtec malfunction [because i dont have vtec no more]
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also im getting mil 92 = Improper purge flow???
and 22 = vtec malfunction [because i dont have vtec no more]
Modified by thebleek at 5:45 PM 9/2/2008