Terrible One

my gf's picking this car up tomorrow. it's a red 93 civic si hb. i just have a few concerns regarding some abnormal features on the car. it doesn't have a tachometer, i always thought all 92-95 civic ex/si came w/ one, someone please confirm this. next, every si's i've seen came w/ rear speaker panels, this one doesn't. last, i was looking at the motor and notice that the d16z6 had p08 imprinted on the head. now is this normal? shouldn't it be p28? correct me if im wrong but the p08 is the d15b. just wondering if it's normal for some d16z6 blocks to have p28 or p08 heads. i know it's always possible that the car has been modified but from the looks of it, it's bone stock and the owners some old married couple looking to buy an suv to haul their grand kids.

EG2Driver

i got and si and it comes with a tach and rear speakers in the plastic. Not sure about the head, it doesnt say VTEC on it, i know that much

rclark

might want to run the vin to make sure, and its good to run it anyways before you buy a car. Seems like if it is an Si it would at least have a tach.

DaveSi677

must have a tach with a redline of 7200 and power sunroof. As for the speaker not all came with it but power sunroof is a must!

Dave

Terrible One

it definately has a sunroof along w/ the rear disc brakes. just wondering if its normal for some si models to not have a tach or rear speakers. also it doesn't say vtec on the valve cover, and the spark plugs run along the bottom row of the valve cover.

DaveSi677

no tach not normal, not having rear speaker normal. I have a 93 Si hatch so I would know. I am also the 2nd onwer! I knew the first onwer very well since it was my mechanic sister.

Dave

eeleaj

cluster a must , rear speaker panel optional, head im not sure but just drive it and see if vtec engages then youll know if it is a vtec head or not. also you might want to see if the ECU is a p28 because it might not be if the cluster has been replaced with a non vtec cluster

Terrible One

it's a p28 i already checked. there's also a vtec solenoid. im gonna try getting a carfax report on it

RJonathan

I have a SI hatch, I got all of that, not sure about the rear speaker and head tho because mine was gutted. but for some reason I got a P72 GSR ecu haha, and its making the car run rich but its not throwing any codes, oh well I guess i'll throw crome on the P72 or something.
anyway best of luck

cisurfer1

po8 i think is the d15b head....the rear speakers were a factory option...and the tach should be there.

B18bEG6ick

i have a 93 si hb, has a tach, sunroof, power mirrors, no rear speakers tho (i wish). i'll try to check the head tomarrow if doesn't rain, but it shouldn't say vtec on the valve cover tho, if its stock.

Terrible One

most d16z6 i've seen says vtec on the valve cover, or maybe just the p28 head. can someone confirm this?

highroller54

I do believe that the z6 didn't say vtec till 94 or 95, I know for sure that 92 and 93 does not(you can change the valve cover though. I have had 2 93 si hatches and they did not have rear speakers. I am sure that the tach was standard in the si though.

instructor74

I am sure that the 92,93 si did not say vtec on the valve cover the 94, 95 came with the vetc lettering on the head. As far as rear speakers go it would only have them if the original owner ordered the sound system with the car these cars came from the factory with no stereo.the car should have a tach, power side mirrors, and a power sun roof as standard equipment. Ac, Stereo and fog lights where all options

instrument

is it an auto?
did they make si autos

Sa.L.aS

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by instrument &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is it an auto?
did they make si autos
</TD></TR></TABLE>no, also does it have 4 wheel disc brakes?

Terrible One

yes it has rear disc brakes. so i guess the tach was probably switched out? im looking for a carfax report right now if anybody is still on their carfax account and would like to help me out, the vin # 2HGEH3381PH525108. 93 civic si hb w/ supposively around 140k.

Kruzen510

Like everyone has said already...Must have a sunroof and rear disc brakes. My 92 Si did not say vtec on the valve cover, had no rear speakers, and has no passenger airbag( I think 93 should have this).

Sa.L.aS

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Terrible One &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">eh3.</TD></TR></TABLE>yes its an si

B18bEG6ick

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kruzen510 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Like everyone has said already...Must have a sunroof and rear disc brakes. My 92 Si did not say vtec on the valve cover, had no rear speakers, and has no passenger airbag( I think 93 should have this).</TD></TR></TABLE>
i have a 93 si and i don't have the passenger airbag. that could just be an option as well.

Terrible One

thanks for all the input guys

sol2hatch

sounds like a 93 si that had the cluster changed out.

kuja396

I have a 93 hath and it has no passenger airbag. But my gf's 94 has one, i think thats the year they switched to always having one, I don't think it has anythign to do with being an si or not.

Its all about the sunroof and the rear brakes

Kruzen510

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kuja396 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have a 93 hath and it has no passenger airbag. But my gf's 94 has one, i think thats the year they switched to always having one, I don't think it has anythign to do with being an si or not.

Its all about the sunroof and the rear brakes</TD></TR></TABLE>Yeah it's a year thing. I just couldn't remember if it changed in 93 or 94, aparently its 94.