Dasol75

Hey everyone new to this site but I will post and see what Info i can get back.
I have a 95 del sol si want more power (like who doesn't) but not sure what is the best route to take. I have the usual intake exhaust etc. But want to either turbo or engine swap. If I do engine swap where can I get a legal engine I live in Va. and they are almost as strick as Cali when it come to smog and stuff. Any way if I can't go that way if I get the greedy turbo I have herd I can only run 7psi on the D16 engine. Is there anything else i CAN DO I want around 240 or so to the wheels and Iwill be happy. Thanks for the info

3sixtycrew

im in the same place as you man. looking for something to do to my sol, i dont know what kind of budget you are on but if i were you i would go for the motor swap, if u go to importbuilders.com they have tons of motors, lots of them are allready built up, and they dyno all their motors so you know how much power its pushing at the wheels, u could just turbo the motor you have now but you probaly wouldent be able to run as much psi cuz its a smaller morot, so in the long run its a good idea to go with the swap. hope this helped u out

95JDMZC

Hmm. I'm going to assume here that your D16 is an SOHC VTEC. If such is the case, get the turbo. Even with 7 psi being crammed down its throat, you'll be amazed by the power it'll put out. If 7 psi isnt' enough, invest in some internals for the D16, there's lots of good parts out there that'll easily withstand more boost. If you're a non-vtec man right now, swap in the tec, you'll LOVE IT. I switched from a D15B7 to a ZC VTEC and instantly went from a 16.7 to a 15.8(before I did some other stuff that got me to 15.6). Either choice you can't go wrong basically. You're gonna go faster and you're gonna have fun doing it.

nwdave

It depends on what condition your stock engine is in, but I say GReddy turbo that biotch

FREAKSOL

Well ya'll have helped me out...I had the same questions!! THANKSS!

Dasol75

I have a 95 si SOHC with like 165k on the engine still running strong. Just wanted to know what if I wanted to run more boost on that engine I have also here of Gude making a head set that they claim will give an extra 50+ hp. Any idea on that

Happyman

The D16Z6/D16Y8 can handle roughly 200hp. 160k miles is a lot to be turboing. I'd suggest swapping another z6 or go with a y8.

B18C5-EH2

Gude?



I personally would not out a Gude head on any car of mine.

As far as turbocharging the stock motor goes, I'd not do it to an engine with over 100K miles on it.

The money you "save" by not building the engine up with forged pistons and rods will soon after be used up to source another engine and hopefully you won't harm the turbo when the block takes a **** on you.

Tuning will also make the difference between 5psi of detonating horseshit that blows up immediately, or 10psi or perfect a/f ratio'd, more powerful driving for a longer amount of time.

Boost takes work, but if you drop pistons and rods in a high-miled D16Z6 and up the boost to 10-12psi with a good stand-alone engine management system like Hondata then you should have no troubles outpowering and outrunning any stock engine swap in terms of B or H series engines.

A swap would be a good choice if you're looking for something factory reliable, and if you drive the hell out of your car then I'd choose this option over turbo any day because relentless driving on boost isn't easy on the car at all.

240whp goal?

You'll need like 15-18psi on that D16Z6 or get a B series and run 8psi on Hondata.

Dasol75

If I do a swap looking Jdm or is there some place that sells honda domestic engines if I get JDM are they legal? I live in VA and they are very strick on there smog laws almost as bad as Cali.
thanks for the help though

B18C5-EH2

Try Import Auto Salvage in Marion, N.C for a USDM swap.

1-800-962-8922

http://www.importautosalvage.com

Ask for Larry Jr. or Randy.

I say get USDM because the mileage is known for sure, and wiring is easier, and some states do not allow JDM engines to pass smog even if you swap all of the emissions controls from a USDM engine over to them.

Dasol75

Anyother place to get USDM Engines at

mr_soless

I have a 93 del sol but its non-vtec what can i do to make faster besides having a CAI and Exhaust. Can i make my del sol a Vtec? How much would it cost to get some speed out of my del sol? Thank you

Russ713

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simple. Do a swap.

mr_soless

im new to this so what is everything i need to do a simple swap that is inexpensive as possible. also what can i do to make it faster with out swapping. Also how much does it cost at a shop to swap out the engine?thanks

hardcorepreston

you could put a VTEC head on your engine if you just want a VTEC.and 240whp?hmm you might want to start looking at something like an H22 and build it up or if you want turbo it.240 whp is quiet a bit for a del sol.If you are serious about getting that high in horses thats gopin to be a nice little car.could the chassie handle that?

mr_soless

do u know what i need to ask the stores when im asking for a Vtec head? and what does the vtec head do for the car and how much will it help?

Russ713

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I believe he was referring to the original poster.

In your case, the average price to swap a motor is usually $500.00 plus any additional parts needed. You could drop in a d16 sohc vtec from a civic ex or a del sol si. Those swaps probably would be around $800 - $1500, depending on mileage and year.

The same price goes for an integra LS motor (b18b) which is a non-vtec dohc, 140hp motor that would yield impressive results compared to the tiny d15 you currently have in your del sol.

The entire swap would probably run you around $2k if you did it yourself, and probably around $2500~ if you let a shop do it for you.

betterwind

I got my swap from Larry Jr. at Import auto salvage. It was very clean any it has been a great motor so far. Good Luck

Dasol75

i was looking a import auto salvage they looked kind of expensive. But had just about every motor. Would you suggest any place else. Also how would i find out if a jdm engine is legal in my state.
Thanks

B18C5-EH2

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You get what you pay for, especially with salvaged stuff for Hondas.

There was this company that stormed H-T and the Honda "scene" a while back that was advertising the lowest prices on swaps on the net. they came out strong and in the end have screwed countless members here and abroad out of full swaps, parts, etc.

Their name is Osaka JDM Motors, and while their prices seemed great, their trustworthiness sucks.

You pay more at I.A.S because you get more. with their USDM swaps you'll get EVERYTHING possible to kake the swap easy.

Like what?

Engine
Tranny
All engine mounts
ECU/computer
Engine harness
Shift linkage
Axles
Exhaust manifold - complete
Catalytic convertor with o2 when applicable - this is unheard of usually
All hoses uncit and capped off - again unheard of usually
Fuel pump - again usually unheard of
Box full of extra bolts to make the swap easier - again an "extra" from them

I work at a shop and I have seen many "bargain" deals that lacked a lot of that stuff. The purchaser then had to buy the missing stuff and usually ended up paying as much or sometimes MORE than the I.A.S price because they were trying to be cheap.

the only other place I can recommend is Honda Motors Online at http://www.hondamotorsonline.com - ask for Steve.

He has a good track record here at H-T as well.

Dasol75

Thanks for the info dude. I just check out your pics they look sweet.
Anyway do you know if any shops in VA that do engine swaps that are trust worthy. Also with IAS do they ship directly to the shop or to your house or where ever.

odieonmybum

If you want 240 hp at the wheels, you better look into a very high quality LSD or you are gonna snap your axles. Well......that's if you put on slicks.

nwdave

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You don't need an H22 to make 240whp. A built, turbocharged single cam can get there...

And the amount of horsepower has nothing to do with the chassis.

B18C5-EH2

Yes I.A.S can ship anywhere, or you can call them and ask if they can do the labor too.

I'm pretty sure that they can even do the swap. They are in N.C so they are close to you.

thanks for the kind words on my pics too...check out the music when you can!

B18C5-EH2

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By the way:

LSD won't make any difference on whether or not you break axles, and street tires cause mad wheels hop in most cases which can break axles or worse, the diff itself and/or the ring gear and pinion shaft (final drive) inside the tranny.