gezer

the car is making the sound like it wants to start, yet it wont start up. it just keeps making the sound like its going to. Iam thinking maybe the msd isnt working but iam not sure. Everything sounds like its doing what it is suppose to be but it wont turn over. any ideas?

Luserkid

check for spark, fuel, and look at your timing.

Do you mean that it keeps cranking but no fire? Or what sound do you hear?

Also is this the motor you were telling me about or is this your bros car?

gezer

yes its my bros, not mine. it sounds like its cranking but not fireing

gezer

how would i check my timining at home, and when i got to turn it on the check engine light is off, then after i try to crank it, it comes on

SOHC4life 96

Did you check to see what code it was?

gezer

check for spark do you mean take of the cap over the spark plug and try to start it that way?

gezer

its throwing code 22 ...man its doing like 2 or 3 long bleeps and then 1 short one

gezer

comon anyone

Durden77

ttt

Luserkid

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Sorry for the late responce i forgot about your thread for a second.

To check for spark pull out the wire and a spark plug, hook up the wire to the spark plug and put the end of the spark plug on your valve cover and have danny turn over the motor. DONT TOUCH THE PLUG ITSELF! Holy hell will you feel sorry after that If you see a spark your getting spark.

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That would be either 21 or 31, i dont think theres a 31 so its probably 21 which is VTEC spool soliniod (sp?). But your car should still be able to start from that. What about talking to JerryBuilt to help you out since his in your area.

gezer

i just found out iam not geting spark. i blieve its the msd.

ABK

pull the spark plugs out smell inside the cylinders if there is any fuel in there. To check your timing put cylinder #1 in TDC and check if the lines line up on the crank and camshaft pulley

Luserkid

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External Coil? Try switching the distributor back to stock. Also check your cap and rotor.

gezer

ya its an external coil, the stock one was taken out

gezer

i smell the gas so i kno iam geting fuel, but i have no spark. i checked for spark from the plugs and nothing. then i checked for some spark from the coil and then nothing, so i dunno if i just messed up the wiring on teh msd or what.

Luserkid

Why not swap out your bros ITR Distributor for yours? Just to see if it would help it run at all. If it does then you know thats the only problem other then the code. Wish i was closer to you guys cause i would stop by and help, or even let you borrow my dizzy to get it started for a sec.

gezer

aite i guess i might do that to check it. but i think iam sleep on it adn wake up tommorrow and try to rewire the msd

gezer

dude i believe it is the msd cause i did the trouble shooting and i got no spark from it at all. i bought it from a user on the boards....i dunno if its faulty

Luserkid

Just make sure everything is hooked up right, check the cap and rotor and try swaping it out. Let us know how it goes.