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sluggish power band before 3,500 rpm. 96 civic b16a2 swap

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Old 07-18-2006, 08:50 PM
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as the title says. my setup as follows, 00' si swap, p06 -->vtec w/ b16 basemap ECU, running a flex pipe in place of the cat, stock muffler and reasonator, obd2a-obd1 jumper harness.

power feels kinda sluggish before 3,500 rpm , after 3,500 it feels fine and picks up quickly and vtec engages at 5,700. what could be the problem?

i also jumped the service connetor and got code 36 if that means anything a while back, but i resetted the ECU.

i've already replaced the spark plug wires and plugs w/ ngk, cleaned the air cleaner, just did an oil change, and replacing the fuel filter tomorrow.

let me know guys!!

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Default Re: sluggish power band before 3,500 rpm. 96 civic b16a2 swap (pinoyboy204)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pinoyboy204 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">as the title says. my setup as follows, 00' si swap, p06 --&gt;vtec w/ b16 basemap ECU, running a flex pipe in place of the cat, stock muffler and reasonator, obd2a-obd1 jumper harness.

power feels kinda sluggish before 3,500 rpm , after 3,500 it feels fine and picks up quickly and vtec engages at 5,700. what could be the problem?

i've already replaced the spark plug wires and plugs w/ ngk, cleaned the air cleaner, just did an oil change, and replacing the fuel filter tomorrow.

let me know guys!!</TD></TR></TABLE>

I would have to say, beacuse honda's have no low end torque...

I do you have no cat, and a stock muffler and resonator..

slap on a cat save the enviroment
Old 07-18-2006, 08:54 PM
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i recently got my whole exhaust system so it'll be on soon!

would that be the reason why my car is sluggish because theres no cat??
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did this just start...or has it always been this way ever sense the swap?

Is it possible ur just feeling the lack of power in the B16 at low RPM's?
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maybe its possible that i'm just feeling the lack of power in the b16.

btw, i've also replaced the oxygen sensor as well.
Old 07-19-2006, 08:13 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pinoyboy204 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">maybe its possible that i'm just feeling the lack of power in the b16.

btw, i've also replaced the oxygen sensor as well. </TD></TR></TABLE>

What are u revving it up to before u pull out the clutch? Rev it u to lke 2.5k before u release the clutch, if u start too low with a 1.6L engine it'll bog down when u pull out the clutch...
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either a fuel map problem or no torque. depends how bad it is
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gonna replace my fuel filter today, i'll keep you guys updated!
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replaced fuel filter and moved the distributor more to the firewall side. runs ok now, but still feeling a little hesitation.
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welcome to the world of having a b16.....all the b16 civics i've driven has done that....its normal for b16's to feel sluggish from 1,500 rpm to 3500rpm....dont expect to go anywhere flooring a b16 from a low rpm....at first i thought it was b/c i have a light weight flywheel but after driving more b16 coupes and hatches, its the same thing....
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sounds like a normal B16a
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before it gave me a oxygen sensor code a while back with a jdm p30 ecu and now replaced the o2 sensor i'm using my new p06 vtec one, it has never reappeared.

it feels like i have a o2 code (which i don't) because it feels sluggish. like hesitant unless i floor it.
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ttt..

btw, also when the car is cold it does the same thing, it feels like its kinda choking unless you hammer the gas then its steady.
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try having it tuned or hack a vafc
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im starting to think its your tps sensor
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if it would be my TPS wouldn't it throw a code?
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Its all the power the b16 puts out a the low rpm Its a normal b16.
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ttt...serious replys guys!
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pinoyboy204 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ttt...serious replys guys! </TD></TR></TABLE>

those are serious replies... having a b16 will give you a sluggish powerband before 3500rpm, thats all there is to it.
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yeah my B16 is that same way....but what can you do to it to improve low end torque?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Brandon31386 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah my B16 is that same way....but what can you do to it to improve low end torque?</TD></TR></TABLE>

smaller exhaust . get a custom header. get a k24a2. lol iono man you have a b16 torque is gonna be hard to get.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Syndacate &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

What are u revving it up to before u pull out the clutch? Rev it u to lke 2.5k before u release the clutch, if u start too low with a 1.6L engine it'll bog down when u pull out the clutch...</TD></TR></TABLE>

don't do this, your just going to wear your clutch premature.

i know some are saying it's a normal b16, but idk, i have a jdm b16a and i don't have this problem (and that's not me playing favorites). maybe because yours is a b16a2? idk, try changing your cap and rotor. also put back your cat. maybe your losing back pressure and this might be the cause of it. who knows?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by philosofy1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">put back your cat</TD></TR></TABLE>

period
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Default Re: sluggish power band before 3,500 rpm. 96 civic b16a2 swap (professor poon)

^^^ +1 to that, N/A's need some back pressure to put down power


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