Joey Mitchell

Ok, taxes are on their way, and I want more power from my d16y7. How can I make more power, and about how much power can I expect to make out of a d series WITHOUT forced air induction??? Don't need a whole lot just would like a little more pep..

Joey Mitchell

By the way, I already have an aftermarket 4-2-1 header installed. I've also considered a mini me y8 head swap, but I've been told by a few of my Honda peeps that I'd be better off sticking with the high compression y7. Keep in mind I do NOT plan on going turbo.

turboLScrx

White_EG1

09chaplak

Glad to see you still lurking in the tech threads White.

Also OP, what White said.

2x0

Two ways to make a Y7 faster....


- Swap for a B series

- Do a little turbo kit. Although the max HP a Y7 will handle with turbo is about what a B swap could get you.

tony_2018

Drop a B18 in there and be done.

White_EG1

Joey Mitchell

I have considered a b swap. Being somewhat new to Honda's, and working on a budget, what b motor would make the most since to swap in my 98 Civic? B18?

Chrisfrom1986

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Stock b20.

One92Eg6

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B20 is cheap, just nonvtec but you can always go B20Vtec. Makes some good power!

Joey Mitchell

Alright I'll do some research on a b20 swap. I'm assuming b20s only come out of CRVs? And which head should I look for?

Chrisfrom1986

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The only thing you'd look for is an obd2 integra ls intake manifold. Most of them use the same integra head but there is a p8r which is different or you can research whether you can handle a vtec conversion.

Joey Mitchell

For time being I think I'd be happy with a stock b20. From what I've researched, the b20b which is an obd2a is pushing around 126 hp stock, and the b20z which is obd2b is more like 148 hp stock... My car being a 98 is of course obd2a, so how much harder would the b20z swap than the b20b? Is this where Integra ls intake mani would come into play??

Chrisfrom1986

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You just use an obd2a p75 integra ecu (I forgot to mention) or I suppose the stock crv ecu, I'm not sure how they compare since my b20z is in an eg with an obd1 ecu.

You use the ls manifold regardless because the crv one has either an awkward 2 piece manifold or the tall p8r which doesn't fit under the hood rumor has it. As always, do your research.

2x0

GSR might cost more than a B20 but it's a worthwhile investment. The 20's are weaker out of the box, non-vtec, and won't handle boost if you ever decide to go that route later on.

tony_2018

**** it, why not go ls1 twin turbo it. Then down the road add another ls1 in the back. After that put blowers on both. If that ain't enough sell it and buy a veyron.

chrysler kid

There are no cheap swaps. Even a b20 swap on a budget done right will cost over $1000

Enjoy the car for the absolute cockroach that it is. You realize a stock new Toyota Camry is faster than a b20 swapped civic

DaX

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That 2 engine 16 cylinder 11.4L quad turbo **** is nuts. I'd def go for the veyron - less throttle cables.

Chrisfrom1986

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I don't know what you mean by done right but I bought my junkyard b20z for less than $150. I bought a whole LS swap (axles and ecu included) for 300 because it was cheap. I used all the accessories from the engine which had a blown head gasket because I needed the obd1 parts. With an intake manifold gasket, oil and spark plugs I was under $500.

With a B16 trans (in my b20z hatch) I don't know if there is really a point doing a vtec head swap for daily driving.

chrysler kid

I haven't seen a manual transmission integra or crv in the junkyard in over 7 years. I'm convinced a k-swap would be the same price since they are everywhere In junkyards now

tony_2018

saw my 1st 5spd b18b in 14 yrs at the yard today. i gotta go back friday to get a steering wheel cuz

I didnt have a 19mm

@TomCat39 you still looking for that bracket?

Chrisfrom1986

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Do you guys need some? Getting crushed left and right over here. I haven't been able to get $200 for an LS locally

Joey Mitchell

I love my little cockroach. Lol. And it doesn't really have to be fast, I kind of like the placebo effect . As long as it's loud, and feels powerful I'm happy. Just so I can turn a few heads by romping on the throttle and scare a passenger or two.. hell my y7 turns heads and gets plenty of attention, it doesn't go anywhere in any kind of hurry but sounds like a monster with nothing more than a header and muffler delete, ran into a hollowed out fart can with the end cut off of it .still running stock cat and resinator. The fart can with the end cut off of it acts as kind of a megaphone for my exhaust. LMAO. These kids in NC love it!!!! 😂😂😂

Thanks everyone for your input, I love gaining a little knowledge. After what research I've done I think I definitely want to go b20z, unless I run across a b20 or b18 incredibly cheap first. Still have no idea what tranny I should be hunting though. Would the stock CRV tranny be any count or should I at least be hunting an ls tranny?

Also, I seen a b20 swapped teg at my local Pull A Part last week, didn't pay any attention to the tranny bc at the time I wasn't really hunting a swap. Anyways, I shy away from previously swapped motors just bc u never know what kind of janky *** 'mechainic' work these billies do here in NC. Just throwing it out there that I did see one. Lol

tony_2018

you should, never know how it was taken care of