Skunk2 Stage 1 cams couple questions*****
02-15-2004, 12:21 PM
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Skunk2 Stage 1 cams couple questions*****
Well i did the search and never really found anything that totally answered my question. I am going to purchase some skunk2 stage 1 cams and was wondering if i could use my stock springs/retainers from my jdm gen2 b16.They have about 40000 miles on them.Thanks guys,appreciate the help
02-15-2004, 12:31 PM
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Re: Skunk2 Stage 1 cams couple questions***** (rocco)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rocco »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Do u hve these cams man?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I have these cams in my hatch running on ITR springs. I would highly recommend not using them with the stock valvetrain. Nothing bad will happen as far as engine damage, but you will also never see all you can from the cams.
I have these cams in my hatch running on ITR springs. I would highly recommend not using them with the stock valvetrain. Nothing bad will happen as far as engine damage, but you will also never see all you can from the cams.
02-15-2004, 12:36 PM
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Re: Skunk2 Stage 1 cams couple questions***** (Hybrid93Eg)
Can you please explain how you will never see all you can from the cams if you use stock valvetrain?
As long as he keeps his stock redline, stock valvetrain will be fine. I don't see any advantages to using ITR valve springs on this setup.
As long as he keeps his stock redline, stock valvetrain will be fine. I don't see any advantages to using ITR valve springs on this setup.
02-15-2004, 12:40 PM
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Re: Skunk2 Stage 1 cams couple questions***** (laz74)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by laz74 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Can you please explain how you will never see all you can from the cams if you use stock valvetrain?
As long as he keeps his stock redline, stock valvetrain will be fine. I don't see any advantages to using ITR valve springs on this setup.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Simple. The cams make power past the stock 8,000rpm redline. Mine are making power all the way to my 8,600rpm fuel cut with no problems. Of course, I run a chipped ECU, but still. The stock valvetrain cannot support the rpm's needed to get the full potential from these cams. Plain and simple.
As long as he keeps his stock redline, stock valvetrain will be fine. I don't see any advantages to using ITR valve springs on this setup.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Simple. The cams make power past the stock 8,000rpm redline. Mine are making power all the way to my 8,600rpm fuel cut with no problems. Of course, I run a chipped ECU, but still. The stock valvetrain cannot support the rpm's needed to get the full potential from these cams. Plain and simple.
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02-15-2004, 01:03 PM
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Re: Skunk2 Stage 1 cams couple questions***** (Hybrid93Eg)
i shift at 8500 rpm on stock gsr valvetrain. i think youll have issues if you misshift often.
02-15-2004, 01:10 PM
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Re: Skunk2 Stage 1 cams couple questions***** (myhatchrips)
So i can use my stock vavletrain then?so what you guys are saying is i should only get the itr valvetrain if i get a new ecu that allows me to rev past limmiter(sp?) ?
02-15-2004, 01:11 PM
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Re: Skunk2 Stage 1 cams couple questions***** (myhatchrips)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by myhatchrips »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i shift at 8500 rpm on stock gsr valvetrain. i think youll have issues if you misshift often.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thats your choice. Just because you can do it doesn't mean its correct. If the stock valvetrain was good for 8,500rpms then you would think that Honda wouldn't have spent the time upgrading the spring rates and installing lighter valves so they could get that out of the ITR. I am sure there was a reason for it.
Thats your choice. Just because you can do it doesn't mean its correct. If the stock valvetrain was good for 8,500rpms then you would think that Honda wouldn't have spent the time upgrading the spring rates and installing lighter valves so they could get that out of the ITR. I am sure there was a reason for it.
02-15-2004, 01:12 PM
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Re: Skunk2 Stage 1 cams couple questions***** (rocco)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rocco »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So i can use my stock vavletrain then?so what you guys are saying is i should only get the itr valvetrain if i get a new ecu that allows me to rev past limmiter(sp?) ?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Summary:
Stock redline will not allow the full potential of the Skunk2's to be seen
If you plan to increase your revlimiter, upgrade the valvetrain
Summary:
Stock redline will not allow the full potential of the Skunk2's to be seen
If you plan to increase your revlimiter, upgrade the valvetrain
02-15-2004, 01:14 PM
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Re: Skunk2 Stage 1 cams couple questions***** (rocco)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rocco »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Do u guys reccomend adjustable cam sprockets?</TD></TR></TABLE>
They will help you to see the full potential of the cams. I have them on my car, just haven't taken the time to dyno them, so they currently sit at 0.
They will help you to see the full potential of the cams. I have them on my car, just haven't taken the time to dyno them, so they currently sit at 0.
02-15-2004, 01:19 PM
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Re: Skunk2 Stage 1 cams couple questions***** (Hybrid93Eg)
man..i cant wait to get stage 1's..i have skunk retainers,jun gears,toda belt,all new oem gaskets..all i need to get are cams and valve springs 
02-15-2004, 01:44 PM
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Re: Skunk2 Stage 1 cams couple questions***** (Grip Driver)
what kinda gains am i lookin at with these cams man,will there be a difference in idle at all?
02-15-2004, 01:54 PM
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Re: Skunk2 Stage 1 cams couple questions***** (rocco)
anywhere from 165-175 whp.
your idle will be like stock. theyre just like ctr cams, but with a longer duration.
your idle will be like stock. theyre just like ctr cams, but with a longer duration.
02-15-2004, 01:58 PM
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Re: Skunk2 Stage 1 cams couple questions***** (EM1Guru)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EM1Guru »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">anywhere from 165-175 whp.
your idle will be like stock. theyre just like ctr cams, but with a longer duration. </TD></TR></TABLE>
The primary lobes are actually smaller on the Skunks for some reason. We measured them and compared them to my old CTR cams. Dunno why, but they are smaller (as in less lift). We could not measure the durration accurately.
your idle will be like stock. theyre just like ctr cams, but with a longer duration. </TD></TR></TABLE>
The primary lobes are actually smaller on the Skunks for some reason. We measured them and compared them to my old CTR cams. Dunno why, but they are smaller (as in less lift). We could not measure the durration accurately.
02-15-2004, 03:56 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rocco »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Do you notice a fair bit more than your ctr's in power man?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes. But keep in mind, my engine is not stock. I run higher compression, different intake mani, chipped ECU, etc.
Yes. But keep in mind, my engine is not stock. I run higher compression, different intake mani, chipped ECU, etc.
02-15-2004, 05:19 PM
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Re: Skunk2 Stage 1 cams couple questions***** (Jmorin)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jmorin »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What about regrinds on the stock ones? Does that have any hp effect?</TD></TR></TABLE>
From what I have read, regrinds are weak. I would not run them on my own car.
From what I have read, regrinds are weak. I would not run them on my own car.
02-15-2004, 05:27 PM
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Re: Skunk2 Stage 1 cams couple questions***** (Hybrid93Eg)
Well i think im goin to have about 11.3:1 compression so that should be pretty good for the cams
02-15-2004, 05:37 PM
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Re: Skunk2 Stage 1 cams couple questions***** (rocco)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rocco »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well i think im goin to have about 11.3:1 compression so that should be pretty good for the cams</TD></TR></TABLE>
Should be fine, I run 10.7:1.
Should be fine, I run 10.7:1.
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What kind of compression should i be running with my car if i am going to use skunk2 stage 1 cams? would a intake manifold/throttle body combo improve my whp? by how much?
02-15-2004, 07:44 PM
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This is a great thread....Hybrid93Eg is throwing out some good info 
yeah so i was thinking bout getting the skunk2 cams with the skunk2 retainers,springs, and most likely the valves..
im running a stock b18c1 with skunk2 intake manifold. thats the only mod ive got beside the intake and exhaust...i got a jdm 4-1 sitting in my garage,just need to get it from point A to point B.
i think this set up should work real good after i open up the throttle body a bit more and get the ECU chipped
anyway keep this thread alive
yeah so i was thinking bout getting the skunk2 cams with the skunk2 retainers,springs, and most likely the valves..
im running a stock b18c1 with skunk2 intake manifold. thats the only mod ive got beside the intake and exhaust...i got a jdm 4-1 sitting in my garage,just need to get it from point A to point B.
i think this set up should work real good after i open up the throttle body a bit more and get the ECU chipped
anyway keep this thread alive
