skunk2 intake manifold
03-17-2007, 05:12 PM
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Re: skunk2 intake manifold (azn99si530)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by azn99si530 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">isit worth 300 bux u say??? or should i get somethin else??......</TD></TR></TABLE>
what kind of answer ru looking for ..."o man those skunk iM are sick bro, get one fo sho!"?
they are pretty sought after and some people even compare the gains to itb. if u get one or not id atleast get the intake manifold and tb gaskets that reduce heat soak, i 4get what there called.
what kind of answer ru looking for ..."o man those skunk iM are sick bro, get one fo sho!"?
they are pretty sought after and some people even compare the gains to itb. if u get one or not id atleast get the intake manifold and tb gaskets that reduce heat soak, i 4get what there called.
03-17-2007, 09:12 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by solbrothers »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have read that the stock b16 intake manifold is the best intake manifold. when itt iis hone extruded. </TD></TR></TABLE>
extrude honed you mean... and I can't see how it would be better over the Skunk2/ITR design. Find that one very hard to swallow.
extrude honed you mean... and I can't see how it would be better over the Skunk2/ITR design. Find that one very hard to swallow.
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03-17-2007, 11:03 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SonicRacing »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why are you gonna pay 300 for a skunk2 manifold..... you can find one somewhere in hondatech for 227....</TD></TR></TABLE>
You can get them on ebay, brand new, for $199 shipped.
You can get them on ebay, brand new, for $199 shipped.
03-18-2007, 01:09 AM
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if you want to make hp cheap..your best bet is bigger cams...if you install them your self its not hard and its not too spendy of a mod for what you get. A different intake and tb on a stock b16 wont gain as much hp as a stock b16 with a lil bit bigger cams. Cams 1st then tb and intake as with a bigger cams will benifit from a larger intake runners than the stock cams will...
03-18-2007, 06:02 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by stuntinhb »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if you want to make hp cheap..your best bet is bigger cams...if you install them your self its not hard and its not too spendy of a mod for what you get. A different intake and tb on a stock b16 wont gain as much hp as a stock b16 with a lil bit bigger cams. Cams 1st then tb and intake as with a bigger cams will benifit from a larger intake runners than the stock cams will...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Cams arent going to be doing much for you if the engine can't flow the additional airflow required, now are they? For "not too spendy of a mod", $500+ sure seems "spendy" to me. Don't forget that with larger cams, unless you are talking about stage 1's, CTRS, etc, you will also need different valvetrain to handle the additional lift and additional rpm required to make use of your newfound powerband. Add some good springs and retainers on the bill and you just dropped $800 for 10whp, if that! I wouldn't say you are going to be making huge gains with the intake manifold either, but its sure as hell a lot cheaper then $500-$800 also! Remember, the best power will be made with a *combination* of parts. If someone doesn't have the money to drop all at once, so be it. So long as they understand its not always about the gains they will get now, but how it will help when they add more crap, then it shouldn't matter.
Cams arent going to be doing much for you if the engine can't flow the additional airflow required, now are they? For "not too spendy of a mod", $500+ sure seems "spendy" to me. Don't forget that with larger cams, unless you are talking about stage 1's, CTRS, etc, you will also need different valvetrain to handle the additional lift and additional rpm required to make use of your newfound powerband. Add some good springs and retainers on the bill and you just dropped $800 for 10whp, if that! I wouldn't say you are going to be making huge gains with the intake manifold either, but its sure as hell a lot cheaper then $500-$800 also! Remember, the best power will be made with a *combination* of parts. If someone doesn't have the money to drop all at once, so be it. So long as they understand its not always about the gains they will get now, but how it will help when they add more crap, then it shouldn't matter.
03-18-2007, 06:04 AM
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Re: skunk2 intake manifold (liquid:cooled)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by liquid:cooled »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
what kind of answer ru looking for ..."o man those skunk iM are sick bro, get one fo sho!"?
they are pretty sought after and some people even compare the gains to itb. if u get one or not id atleast get the intake manifold and tb gaskets that reduce heat soak, i 4get what there called.</TD></TR></TABLE>
If ANYONE said the gains were even closely similar to that of ITB's then they are only fooling themselves. Thats just stupid. So a header would be comparably to adding a turbo? You realize how much hp a good tuned ITB setup adds? Or did you blindly make that statement?
what kind of answer ru looking for ..."o man those skunk iM are sick bro, get one fo sho!"?
they are pretty sought after and some people even compare the gains to itb. if u get one or not id atleast get the intake manifold and tb gaskets that reduce heat soak, i 4get what there called.</TD></TR></TABLE>
If ANYONE said the gains were even closely similar to that of ITB's then they are only fooling themselves. Thats just stupid. So a header would be comparably to adding a turbo? You realize how much hp a good tuned ITB setup adds? Or did you blindly make that statement?
03-18-2007, 09:17 AM
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Re: skunk2 intake manifold (azn99si530)
my friend put on on his b swaped ek even with i/h/e it felt like he lost a ton of low end torque. it's not worth the money spend your money on a good intake and a full exhaust. just my input though
03-18-2007, 01:27 PM
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Re: skunk2 intake manifold (HONDA300)
skunk 2 manifold does make a little difference at mid to high.. but the best combination for that is to get camshafts to make more power.. stage 1 and up and you'll feel a difference..it wont be like having turbo.. but u will be able to tell a difference from it being stock..also have the basic bolt ons i/h/e..
03-18-2007, 02:19 PM
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Re: skunk2 intake manifold (IntenseCivicSi)
ok i have read that book and not every thing you read in a book is going to be right. yes in that book the b16 made more power then the S2im but also more then the itr im as well. the reason 4 that is they are not tuning it i have a b16a2 in my civic and i put on a Professional products typhoon intake manifold it as all the same spec. as the itr im the has ben EH and at first i made 148whp with the stock im and a tune and just swaping the ims with no tune i lost 8whp with no gains through the hole powerban but after the tune i made 156.3whp it had a 8.3whp gain and almost a 6wtq gain so yes with no tune stay with stock im but if you plan on getting a tune it is nice. my car was dynoed on a dynojet on 93oct. with only i/h/e/im/testpipe/chiped and tuned p28 with a s2k tb
03-18-2007, 03:32 PM
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Re: skunk2 intake manifold (solbrothers)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by solbrothers »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
well i read it in the book "how to build honda horsepower"</TD></TR></TABLE>
Don't believe everything you read in a book. Trust me. The Skunk2 manifold is designed for upper rpm power. People complaining about losses in low/mid range obviously don't understand the purpose of this manifold. You aren't racing at 2k rpms are you? at 5k? Didnt think so. These engines are high revving, not low rpm truck engines. Keep this in mind when discussing this manifold.
well i read it in the book "how to build honda horsepower"</TD></TR></TABLE>
Don't believe everything you read in a book. Trust me. The Skunk2 manifold is designed for upper rpm power. People complaining about losses in low/mid range obviously don't understand the purpose of this manifold. You aren't racing at 2k rpms are you? at 5k? Didnt think so. These engines are high revving, not low rpm truck engines. Keep this in mind when discussing this manifold.
03-18-2007, 03:41 PM
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Re: (solbrothers)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by solbrothers »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you are totally right about where the power is transferred. and i did notice a difference in the upper rpm area. i had the skunk2 im on my b16 del sol.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes... Thats the whole idea behind the design is to increase top end power. A good set of cams will make this even more evident. Of course, the rest of the setup needs to flow well also. Everything should compliment everything else...
Yes... Thats the whole idea behind the design is to increase top end power. A good set of cams will make this even more evident. Of course, the rest of the setup needs to flow well also. Everything should compliment everything else...
03-22-2007, 01:10 PM
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Re: skunk2 intake manifold (4drgsr96)
What wiring are u talking about that needs to be modified. No wires hook directly to the intake. You are going to want an intercooler or otherwise you'll toast your motor fast. Trust me i fried the rings on my first motor because it had no intercooler.
