WILLBBOYKIN

OK I am looking to get springs for my 98 ex coupe just wondering which one is better. Also if i should go with an all in one package.

slammed_93_hatch

its freakn eibach

jeffk182

Eibach will give you a smoother ride. Skunk2 springs are pretty sitff.

EK22snatch

skunk2 definately got a stronger spring rate, so you be the judge. if you seriously think you need a more rigid ride, then go for skunk2, but if you dont really want taht go with Eibach.

skunk2's are okay but i think eibach makes the best springs.

WILLBBOYKIN

Thanks for the help guys and sorry about the freakin spelling

Pioneer162

I have skunk2 springs on tokico illumina's and enjoy them, never rode on eibach's...but I'm sure they're very nice too...


Modified by Pioneer162 at 7:36 AM 9/24/2004

FeRioR$

i had Skunk2 Coilovers and Eibach Ground Control Coilovers and Eibach's Pro Kit...

Skunk2 = stiff though but great ride, can't see anything wrong
Eibach/Ground Control = great ride also, softer than Skunk2
Eibach Pro Kit = inbetween, the drop sucks ... only about 1inch it rides okay...

I got H&R now and love it.. but i would go for Skunk2 but that's just me..

vtecvoodoo

Compare the warranty on each spring. That tells the whole story.

PLAN:B

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FeRioR$ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i had Skunk2 Coilovers and Eibach Ground Control Coilovers and Eibach's Pro Kit...

Skunk2 = stiff though but great ride, can't see anything wrong
Eibach/Ground Control = great ride also, softer than Skunk2
Eibach Pro Kit = inbetween, the drop sucks ... only about 1inch it rides okay...

I got H&R now and love it.. but i would go for Skunk2 but that's just me..</TD></TR></TABLE>

H&R

Targa250R

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by WILLBBOYKIN &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">OK I am looking to get springs for my 98 ex coupe just wondering which one is better.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Better for what?

ejONE.mike

eibachs will give you a smooth ride. i havent experienced sk2 springs yet

AlizeVS

I like the ride on Eibachs a lot smoother.

Targa250R

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JayDieM_ej1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">eibachs will give you a smooth ride. i havent experienced sk2 springs yet</TD></TR></TABLE>
If the spring rates and dampers are the same, then the ride will be identical regardless of the brand.

The default spring rates for GC coilovers vs. the rates for Skunk2 are not the same however - Skunk2 has stiffer rates as default and will make for a more bumpy/stiff ride, albeit with less body roll and therefore better handling. If you order comparable custom spring rates for the GCs though, they will ride the same.

vtecvoodoo

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Targa250R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
If the spring rates and dampers are the same, then the ride will be identical regardless of the brand.

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Actually this is not true.

Overall spring design including wire size and wire material will differ from company to company. This will cause a major difference in ride quality/charecteristics.

eg4matze

H&R

Audi RS4

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slammed_93_hatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">its freakn eibach</TD></TR></TABLE>

LMAO...........

why not rock some ground controls, just a thought.....custom spring rates.

FBP2kSi

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtecvoodoo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Actually this is not true.

Overall spring design including wire size and wire material will differ from company to company. This will cause a major difference in ride quality/charecteristics.</TD></TR></TABLE>

this man knows his stuff.

Tyson

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Targa250R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
If the spring rates and dampers are the same, then the ride will be identical regardless of the brand.</TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtecdoodoo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Actually this is not true.

Overall spring design including wire size and wire material will differ from company to company. This will cause a major difference in ride quality/charecteristics.
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i havent tested either on a calibrated spring coil tester, nor ever used skunk2 springs myself, what i hear is that springs may vary at the least 5% to 10% of the stated value. the differences arent going to be as majorly different as simply having 2 different sets of spring rates, even if from different or same spring manufacturers, yet alone different spring length/diameter. so while taking into account vtecdoodoo's warning of difference in QUALITY of spring manufacturers, hookes law is still hookes law. what i think Targa is just emphasizing is that GC/ERS vs. Skunk2/noname brand default adjustable coilover kits DONT come with the same spring rate, which a lot of ppl dont seem to consider or even know or understand its value in terms of suspension characteristics when just simply comparing the two brands.

and furthermore, i'd like to point out that EVERYONE has the ability to CHOOSE your OWN "ride quality" (smooth, rough, tight, bouncy, orgasmic, whatever) when you are able to choose your own spring rates, which buying a GC kit allows you to do. and you are NOT simply locked down by manufacturer, or choosing between "race" or "street" or "pro" spring kits. quite frankly the answer is simple, you only have to go with GC and you have all the options you want.

but one last thing to mention, is that the quality of damper (shock absorber) is equally or maybe MORE IMPORTANT than spring rate in terms of providing a better "ride quality". which should be considered (first) when aiming for a specific ride.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Targa250R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
The default spring rates for GC coilovers vs. the rates for Skunk2 are not the same however - Skunk2 has stiffer rates as default and will make for a more bumpy/stiff ride, albeit with less body roll and therefore better handling. If you order comparable custom spring rates for the GCs though, they will ride the same.</TD></TR></TABLE>


Modified by Tyson at 10:45 AM 9/24/2004

vtecvoodoo

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i havent tested either on a calibrated spring coil tester, nor ever used skunk2 springs myself, what i hear is that springs may vary at the least 5% to 10% of the stated value.
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We make Nascar spec springs that are required to be within .5% of quoted rate. Nobody can touch that

Tyson

hyperco aka hypercoil. sorry to remind you. i know youre just trying to do your job. but eibach does make a high quality and equally comparable spring.

vtecvoodoo

Not that close of tolerance. That`s why we are making them.

turbochic

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtecvoodoo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

We make Nascar spec springs that are required to be within .5% of quoted rate. Nobody can touch that </TD></TR></TABLE>

well maybe we can....

slammed_93_hatch

if you guys check out the NEW GROUND CONTROL WEB SITE you can see that they are starting to stray away from the "defualt", but you can still get them.

http://www.ground-control-store.com

vtecvoodoo

We need a Hyperco member and the whole gang is here

Tyson

id be interested to see what range of spring rates they will give based on description.