jesusjdm69

I have a 97 civic and im undecided of which front end i should go with or which one has a better deal.. the sir front end comes with headlights fenders bumper and hood.. The 00 ctr comes with grill bumper fenders hood and black housing headlights and ctr lip ... They are both for $500....Let me know

Ej8_KiD

Sir ftw

mortificationrock

CTR FTW. Si looks like evry other 99-00 front end. Especially the lip. As for the CTR lip looks sicker and diffirent in my opinion.

NOFX

I'd need to know the parts are authentic or not.

The "black housing headlights" with the CTR front end. Are they aftermarket black housing headlights or are they real Type R headlights?

I'm personally not a fan of front end conversions though.
I think you misread.

The Si has the same basic front end as a '99-'00 Type R, besides the lights.

The Type R standard front lip is, in fact, the same lip that the Si got standard and the same lip '99-'00 US coupes had as an option (fits '99-'00 hatches and sedans also).

But the OP mentioned he has a 1997 Civic. Something like this.



He's torn between getting an "SiR" front end (bumper, fenders, headlights - did not mention lip), like this:



Or doing a '99-'00 front end conversion and getting a '99-'00 Civic Type R front end (bumper, fenders, grille, headlights, lip), like this:



The fenders are basically the same as USDM fenders, besides they have a sidemarker. The hoods are the same. The '99-'00 Type R lip is the same as the US Si lip.

93egSLEEPER

ive never been a fan of the moldings on the sir bumpers. i like the ctr... much cleaner imo

del_barry

Leave it as a 96-98, no need for a conversion to the newer front

$500 would be a good deal with real ctr headlights, altho I paid 260 for my si front end sans the hood

Smash03

Just to throw another option out there, why not go for the 98 CTR front end? Just get the lip, grill, and headlights.

jord18

Same here always thought the moldings were nasty...

91' LS-VTEC

i cn't pick witch one i like more.

VTECROAR96typeR

get the CTR front end.to me it all has to do with the foglights even tho you can put fog lights on a 98 front end they dont look better than the 00 front end

delslow302

go with the CTR and paint it championship white

mortificationrock

Thats the CTR front i was refering to. That lip. I know what a Sir looks like. With the bumper mouldings and all. But most people get the SiR lip which looks a lot like the Si lip. Thats what i was refering to.

realxfresh

are SiR & 2000 bumpers direct fit?

LwdJdmR

SiR yesss!
& Nope on the 2000, they have different headlights, fenders, hood & bumper!

cash459

CTR is MUCH better looking!

Is that $500 price tag for authentic parts & authentic CTR headlights??

if so, i want in on it too!!

alphalanos

I seriously doubt its genuine parts for $500. Real CTR lights are at least $350-400 alone. For its its between the 6th gen CTR and 7th gen CTR. I like the simplicity of the older but I also like the modern look of the newer. SiR doesnt look great to me.

abstract1

Most def go w/the CTR and paint it champ white can't go wrong!!!

realxfresh

anyone have pics with the SiR on a black car?

NOFX

I don't think it does. I know a lot of people would agree with me.

"SiR" Lip



Painted "SiR" Lip



1999 - 2000 Optional Lip ("Si" Lip)


For a '96-'98 Civic you can fit the SiR bumpers on without any modification.

For the '99-'00 bumper you will need to replace your bumper, hood, fenders, headlights and grille. You might need to modify the new bumper or your old core support or replace the core support.

pliskin8

iTrader: (1)

bingo!! i was going to do the '00 conversion myself on my '97 but did'nt have the cash to do it at the time. now slowly i've bought a cf hood, headlights, grill, lip, side markers and it does'nt look half bad, still when i buy a hatch if it's a 96-98 i'm gonna do a '00 ctr conversion

NOFX

I just do not understand buying a car knowing you want a different year.

pliskin8

iTrader: (1)

i hear what you're saying but sometimes (like in my case) i needed a car, i looked and looked (and then looked some more) but was'nt able to find a 99 or 00. even now that i am looking for a hatch no luck, i keep finding mostly 96 or 97 very few 98's. so if i cant find what i'm looking for a conversion is a good option.