Short shifter ringing question with an aside to suspension theory.
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Batpool
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Short shifter ringing question with an aside to suspension theory.
I received a skunk2 short shifter with the skunk2 **** for Christmas, and got around to putting it on yesterday. I checked to make sure it would clear the exhaust (it did), that the bitch pin wasn't tightened too much so it could shift (it wasn't), and that it just looked darn good (it did).
Now my problem: in third and fourth gear, the shifter rings. I know this sounds weird but it does. Between 2k and 3k on the tach my shifter sounds like a pitch fork for a guitar, or like if you hit a metal pole with something else metal. The only thing I could think of is if it is touching the exhaust in some way, and the exhaust note is causing this resonance, but I went under and looked at it, and there was no touching. Maybe the linkage arm is touching the exhaust? I thought of that just now, but I haven't had a chance to check. Any other ideas?
And don't tell me to answer the shifter. That is not funny. It is not V-tech
The aside is more of a noobish musing and I need some help. What causes a car to be jittery and bouncy? Is it too high of a spring rate, or too weak of shocks? I installed a set of Ksports onto my Civic (1998 4 door EX), with rates of 10f and 7r, and the thing bounces enough to bother me. I have the back full soft and the front one turn harder, but it still bounces. Should I turn the shocks up more or get lower spring rates?
Now my problem: in third and fourth gear, the shifter rings. I know this sounds weird but it does. Between 2k and 3k on the tach my shifter sounds like a pitch fork for a guitar, or like if you hit a metal pole with something else metal. The only thing I could think of is if it is touching the exhaust in some way, and the exhaust note is causing this resonance, but I went under and looked at it, and there was no touching. Maybe the linkage arm is touching the exhaust? I thought of that just now, but I haven't had a chance to check. Any other ideas?
And don't tell me to answer the shifter. That is not funny. It is not V-tech
The aside is more of a noobish musing and I need some help. What causes a car to be jittery and bouncy? Is it too high of a spring rate, or too weak of shocks? I installed a set of Ksports onto my Civic (1998 4 door EX), with rates of 10f and 7r, and the thing bounces enough to bother me. I have the back full soft and the front one turn harder, but it still bounces. Should I turn the shocks up more or get lower spring rates?
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Batpool
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Re: (chrisw85)
I was thinking this, but I don't know enough about coilovers yet to trust myself to make the right adjustment. Tomorrow morning I will turn it a full turn towards hard and see what it does, and keep going till it stops bouncing. Would it be smart to do anything to the front shocks also?
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Re: (SilentEdge)
Bump before bed, if anybody could answer my questions that would be great. I have to drive 500 miles tomorrow and I don't want to hear my shifter ringing all over the place while I'm bouncing off the road.
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Re: (SilentEdge)
The shifter arms (that go from the shifter to the tranny) are touching something underneath the car when you're in the problem gears. I ended up bending the shift linkage slightly when I installed an exhaust because, in 2 gears they touched.
I'd go underneath the car, have someone shift through the gears and watch what the shifter shafts are doing.
10 and 7 =
550 lbs/in and 385 lbs/in which is exactly the same rates I run on my koni-yellows with ground controls. I run mine full stiff on the track and about 1/2 on the street and don't have any bounce. I'd suspect the shocks.
I'd go underneath the car, have someone shift through the gears and watch what the shifter shafts are doing.
10 and 7 =
550 lbs/in and 385 lbs/in which is exactly the same rates I run on my koni-yellows with ground controls. I run mine full stiff on the track and about 1/2 on the street and don't have any bounce. I'd suspect the shocks.
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Batpool
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Re: (2coupes)
The shocks are valved for these spring rates though. I tried dialing up the hardness today, two turns in the back and it is a lot better. It still bounces a little though. I have ksports on my car with the front 1 turn from soft and the back 2 turns up (so right in the middle). Should I turn the front up more, the back up more, or should I just leave it as is?
And MasterKwan, you were right on the money. The shift linkage rests on the exhaust when I'm in 3rd and 4th. I will live with it for now because I'm leaving on a big drive in two hours and I need to spend the time packing, but as soon as I get back up to Berkeley I will try to bend it out of the way. Thank you for your help.
Anybody else want to chime in about the suspension, especially people with experience with ksports?
And MasterKwan, you were right on the money. The shift linkage rests on the exhaust when I'm in 3rd and 4th. I will live with it for now because I'm leaving on a big drive in two hours and I need to spend the time packing, but as soon as I get back up to Berkeley I will try to bend it out of the way. Thank you for your help.
Anybody else want to chime in about the suspension, especially people with experience with ksports?
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Re: (SilentEdge)
Your shift linkage is probably vibrating against your exhaust.
I had this problem but it wasn't ringing noise, it could depend on the amount of vibration.
I had a buddy cut out a section of my exhaust and reposition it so it didn't hit the shifter.
I had this problem but it wasn't ringing noise, it could depend on the amount of vibration.
I had a buddy cut out a section of my exhaust and reposition it so it didn't hit the shifter.
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