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Old 12-16-2005, 09:58 PM
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i have an h22a in my '94 hatch... everything shifts fine except when I try to shift into 2nd(only) at high rpms it wont go in, it feels like im hitting something spongy... any ideas?
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i had that problem in my 94 gsr. i ended up jamming it in so many times i messed up my syncros but found out after when it was too late that it was the clutch pedal freeplay. mine was adjusted to be short, so at high rpm it can't disengage properly prventing me from going into 3rd. hope this help. good luck.
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the d00d i got the car from said that he had adjusted the clutch so it would engage closer to the floor...could that be it?
Old 12-17-2005, 04:46 PM
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that could very well be the problem. adjust it by doing this:

-there is 2 nut under your dash near your pedal.
-unbolt the 12mm near the stick with a rubber bushing covering it fron the firewall.
-than unbolt the 14mm nut on top futher out towards the dash.
-turn that bolt all the way out. now turn the stick until your pedal lines up with your brake pedal.(stick going towards firewall = long clutch, stick going away firewall = short clutch)
-turn the top bolt back down to hold the pedal align with the brake.
-tighten back up both nuts(12,14mm) and that should be it.
--IMPORTANT--: make your clutch pedal is not pressed down when you turn the bolt back down to hold it in place, this can cause your clutch to slip. hard to explain,
sorry this is the best i can describe it, easier when you are looking at it. good luck.
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alright thanks, ill give it a try and let you know
Old 12-17-2005, 08:03 PM
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ok we are goin to attempt this in about 30min..if u get this could u pm me your phone# so we can get some better instructions..i'd rather do it verbally and look at the problem and try to solve it..thx guys
Old 12-17-2005, 10:57 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TeggYHatcH &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the d00d i got the car from said that he had adjusted the clutch so it would engage closer to the floor...could that be it?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Why would someone want their clutch to engage near the floor? When the clutch disc gets hot it could expand, making it difficult to disengage the clutch. It also means a longer time to shift gears.
Old 12-17-2005, 11:41 PM
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i guess you never drove a short clutch before.
shorten your clutch freeplay is nothing magic. all it does is puts the same effect as if you were to step in stock clutch pedal less. when the disc disengage it will renngage quicker compare to stock therefore you will not lose as much rpm when shifting, so you will shift a bit quicker, sometime that bit counts from a win or lose...depend on the driver. some like it short some like it long.
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here is a picture of the pedal. hope this help you guys.(if picture does not work please say so)if you like me to email you the pdf file PM me with your email address.



i have circle in RED which nut you should adjust. leave everything else alone.
--loosen LOCKNUT C.(12mm)
--loosen LOCKNUT A.(14mm)
--turn CLUTCHSWITCH OUT
--put one hand on the pedal LIGHTLY while turning the PUSHROD until pedal is align with brake pedal.
--tighten LOCKNUT C.
--turn CLUTCHSWITCH BACK DOWN just enough to touch clutch pedal(not pushing it, TOUCHING IT ONLY)
tighten LOCKNUT A.

your done.
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we didnt get the chance last night to try it, one of our friends said that the Prelude trannys arent that good and that wouldnt fix problem.. so im not sure now. what do you think?
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wouldn't hurt to try adjusting it. at most it'll make your car a bit better. if you were not the original owner, the previous owener may have change the settings around and mess things up. so its up to you, but like i said, wouldn't hurt to try.

if you friend said prelude tranny arn't that good he is wrong. all honda tranny are design to work with no problems. there were never any recall on that tranny. so you now have a problem not a bad tranny.
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i read somewhere that the Prelude trannys didnt like high rpms like a b-series does, thats why they make an adapter kit for the b-series tranny to bolt on an h22 and also that the h22 trannys werent that strong of a tranny... but your right, im going to give that a try sometime tomorrow, Il let you know what happens..
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by the way, your pic doesnt work?
Old 12-21-2005, 10:26 AM
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which clutch master cylinder is in the car? is it a stock integra one?
Old 12-21-2005, 10:28 AM
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[QUOTE=TeggYHatcH]i read somewhere that the Prelude trannys didnt like high rpms like a b-series does, thats why they make an adapter kit for the b-series tranny to bolt on an h22 and also that the h22 trannys werent that strong of a tranny... [QUOTE]

H synchros don't like high rpm's, and the fact that its cable shift doesn't help any when you're slamming gears either. Try zip tying your shifter cables every few inches, it helps with shifter feel some. The main reason for the H2B is the gear ratio difference between H and B, and it also allows you do swap the H without hacking up the car as much.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TeggYHatcH &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">we didnt get the chance last night to try it, one of our friends said that the Prelude trannys arent that good and that wouldnt fix problem.. so im not sure now. what do you think?</TD></TR></TABLE>


if ure friend told you to jump in front of a moving train that went 85 mph would you do it?
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i beleive its the one for the h22a
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depends on how much money he has
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