AWD 20T

Hey guys,

It's been a while since I owned a Honda, so please bare with my n00bish-like questions. A friend of mine is going to be selling his 98 EK soon, and I am seriously considering buying it. As of right now there is a JDM B20 in it, but if I buy it I will definitely swap in a USDM ITR motor. I was wondering if the swap (ITR in an EK) is very hard or if any modifications are necessary to do so? Also, is it hard to find a USDM ITR motor at all? I would only be considering '00 and '01 ITR motors, '97 and '98 are not an option. How much would a brand new '01 ITR motor be from the dealership?

Thanks again for putting up with my stupid questions that most likely everyone already knows the answers too on here.

u0f

why not just keep the b20? the usdm type-r is the most expensive b-series swap out there, and its not worth it to go from a b20 to the b18.. boost the b20!!

AWD 20T

B20 is out of the question. I am set on an ITR swap. End of story!

98dxhatch

^ what he said.

the B18c5 swap is one of the priciest Honda swaps out there, and you won't see much improvement over your B20. You'd be better off boosting and tuning that bish.

edit: if you are set on the ITR swap, which'll prolly set you back >$3,500 then good luck.

AWD 20T

My questions are basically, is the ITR swap easy, i.e. no modifications to the car necessary for fitment, is it just drop in? How hard is it to locate a 2000-2001 USDM ITR Motor and how much would it cost just to order one from an Acura dealership?

ace1875

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Yes

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Very hard cause it was limited edition.


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More then your car is worth right now. Guessin about $8,000-$13,000 brand new assmebled from Acura Motor and Tranny

On a side not Why try Importbuilders.com Jeff has great prices for crate motors

Ekizzle

USDM ITR =

but wth, are you talking about.

sometimes i just can't figure you out

Mr. Samurai

I would look into gettin a b16 head and putting vtec in the b20.. since you have the b20 block already

slammed_93_hatch

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thats stupid that is extremly unreliable,

there is nothing wrong with geting a type R motor easy swap, and you will need to pull off the rear mount from the b20 cause you need it to swap that is if it is the correct mount (civic SI mount) oo and check out http://www.c-speedracing.com they have a great how too

BrotherGrim

Go with a k24 head an just go frankenstein on that thing. vroom vroom

The Internet Tough Guy

seriously, just boost and tune the b20 you already have (er will have).

why are you so hell bent on getting the usdm itr?

GsR HtCh

boost the B20 and tune that bitch

AWD 20T

Ahhhhhhhhhhh! I don't want the B20, how many times do I have to say that!!!!? Just answer the questions I asked!

GsR HtCh

if you are gonna be stubborn than here you go.

from honda you will be paying alot(8-12,000) for the swap. they can be bought for 3500-4000 over the internet. here is a link of places to get it from.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=50010

should have searched first.

amy

they already did answer your questions........ but why not just keep that b20?
haha

AWD 20T

LOL! Thanks everybody.

GsR HtCh

and about the swap here you go

wiring
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=558245

mounts
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=550976

swap stuff
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=131949


that should start you off

Luserkid

I think the guy might also want the ITR because you could easily pass smog with it unlike the B20 which cant pass. But the ITR is a straight drop in with a grip of wiring to do. First thing i would upgrade though is the mounts unless if there new. Have fun.

2.0L EK

Drop a SOHC in and B00ST the SOHC!

JICEK9

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I hope your kidding... k24 head and a b20 bottom eh!

piscorpio

Sheesh, is the Type R swap not cool these days? It amazes me how often people think they know what engine is best for you, without knowing exactly what you even want from it.

JICEK9

b16a2 price from honda

block-$2575
head-$2216
tranny-$2147

total-$6940 for block haed and tranny

throttle body-$563
intake manifold-$301

keep in mind this is for a b16a2, a b18c5 will be much much more!

way out of the question. IMO just get a ITR haed and ecu and smoke sum true ITR's for fun!

SpyderZEX

Wait let me get this right..... You have a b20 in the car now and you want to buy an ITR? If you don't already own the ITR, then forget about it. It's not a difficult swap, but it is not worth the agrovation. If you want VTEC then just put a GSR or ITR head on it. That is what I would do. I'd use the rest of the money, that I had saved up, to to boost your b20.