shorty

i like the way they look.. not lookin for a full cage, just sumthin to put in my gutted hatch but whats this **** about a non-working cage? like those monkeybars or whatever.... what makes them non functional? would they just crush if you ever did roll your car? anybody have any links/pics/suggestions?

vtecvoodoo

Look into kirk or autopower.

.BULLET.

i have autopower..4-point race roll bar with detatchable crossbrace...my chassis is stiffer and the paint sux bcuz i asked them to rush the delivery..they wrapped it up with plastic while the paint was still soft i heard only good of kirk roll bars.

nerdsports

where can i find some 4point rollbars?? kirk or autopower??

IS3Fifty

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Machiii has them. On sale. Cusco


To anser the first question, you want a Roll Bar that wont work?? They arent cheap, why?? why not just get a functional cage, so that you can race at the track.

shorty

no i was wondering why they dont work... is it simply that they will collapse if you actually roll your car because they are made of cheap metal? I dont want a full roll cage, cauze this is my daily driver... but A) yes i think they look cool, but B) i want it to actually do its job if the worst happens.

boostedcivicsir

just a FYI. NHRA sanctions most tracks. if you put a bar in and it isnt up to the NHRA rule book they will fail you at tech. S&W Race Cars has a 6 point kit. 6 points are the minimum for any car going 11's or lower till you get to the 9's then the chassis has to be certified. my oppinion is that if you arent needing one, why deal with the extra weight? oh and i hate monkey bars. i hate everything that has a look to it. i hate the damn front mount look intercooler even more. but thats my rant. ill now eat my cookies and milk.

shorty

rofl the front mount "intercooler" intakes... rorofforofl hahha, i feel really bad now that you put my lil idea in the same sentance with that. Yea the extra weight would suck.. but this is my daily driver, and im only 17 wouldnt mind the lil extra protection, my car wont be in the 11's, but are you saying that if i go run my car just once with a bar that doesnt meet the NHRA rules or whatever they wont even let me run? I want to find a functional roll bar, but somthing that wont restrict aka a full full cage where i have to hop over a bar to get in my car

transmission11

they are not only used for when your car is goin to roll over to protect yourself, they are also used to stiffen up your chasis.

UpstateCivic

I have a Competition Engineering 6 point welded in. Stiff. That's all I gotta say.

shorty

ok even after all u guys posts could someone answer my question...

what makes the "monkey bars" non functional? they will just collapse if the weight is put on them? weak metal?

anyone have any pics of a FUNCTIONAL one in a hb?

shorty

anyone heard of these? http://amestripbars.com/9295hch.asp

shorty

ne1?

shorty

ttt

D16Z6racing

http://www.optauto.com

They carry Autopower roll cages.

cxSOHChatch

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what im wondering is are those "image series" bars just for looks?

*edit: ok i read up on the site and they said "not intended as a safety device"

owen_the_soyboy

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by shorty &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok even after all u guys posts could someone answer my question...

what makes the "monkey bars" non functional? they will just collapse if the weight is put on them? weak metal?

anyone have any pics of a FUNCTIONAL one in a hb?</TD></TR></TABLE> the non-functional rollbars, ie. MonkeyBarz (y0!) are designed without triangulation and without proper strength tubing. They are typically for show cars and are designed with bends to follow dashes and seats, but the bends are locations that the rollbar will bend or break in an impact or loading.

Functional rollbars and cages are from Cusco, Autopower, Spoon, Kirk or even custom cage fabricators... and will have to meet very specific criteria in design and materials to meet the regulations required by most race series/organizations.
here is a pic of my Autopowwer race rollbar with horizontal harness bar-



Here is a pic of a crappy MonkeyBarz setup y0!-



and another **** cage/bar-

shorty

thanks for the info owen, damn that looks tight, can you move your seats at all? how restrictive is it?

BROOD

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I hope you mean the "real" roll bars look tite
I just don't think the non-functional bars would be a good idea in a crash event. I'd only trust a true roll bar or cage setup. It would suck to get hit in the head with a 50lb steel bar in an accident becasue it is only attached at a few points and is totally absent of any structural support.

owen_the_soyboy

-nah movement is fine. I can slide my front seats back as far as stock sliders provide. (I mounted my sparcos right onto the stock sliders)
-you cannot recline very far is you run a rollbar like mine, but they are not made for people who like to lowride with the mad ReCLinEr StYleZ y0!
-people who run a full 6 pt cage like autopower or kirk have much less room to get in and out because of the bar running alongside the door that makes your feet harder to get in and out of the car, but I am sure they think it is well worth the effort and the extra protection from a 6pt cage over a 4 pt rollbar is superb.
rollbars like mine are not too expensive either, yet they render the rear seats useless.
you can get a rollbar like mine yet with a removable diagonal piece so on the street you can have passengers in the rear seats, yet there are still the side supports that run diagonal to the rear wheel-wells and the rear passengers might hit these in an accident, not cool.

blkDOHCsol

where did you get it?

euclid

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i have the same one, but my car is getting sold so it is up for sale, good price... pm me for details.