Andres-eh2

I recently was told that removing Power Steering on a car thats supposed to have it, is a big no no! This being that that steering rack or pinions will get screwed up sooner or later. (something like that)

However, I read most of you guys take them out for more hp or room...

So is this true or am I gonna call the MYTHBUSTERS!

The Internet Tough Guy

false. as long as there is fluid in the rack to keep it nice and lubricated, it should be fine.

do it - it's a great mod that's almost free. i definately <u>noticed</u> more power throughout every angle of the tach, and if you put a breather on the loop of the 2 existing fittings, the wheel isn't even that hard to turn when stopped. also, it feels a lot cooler on the road - you have to fight it a little bit, it's awesome. do it!!

luti

I've been thinking about doing this for a while but live ina city and I have to parallel park a lot which is why I've avoided it. What is this breather trick? Can you be a little more specific please?

slammed_93_hatch

dude unless you are extremly small, i mean like under 100 pounds, its not that hard to turn the wheel. My girlfreind can do it, and she has very little muscle only weights 105lbs.

FOR THE LAST TIME ITS NOT HARD TO TURN THE WHEEL WITH OUT PS.

and also when driveing your car on twisty, i feel alot more in control of the car and you can feel the road, with PS the car trys to help you out it seems which fuckn sucks if you ask me. so when it comes down to pick up some weights get alil muscle and remove your PS

Hatchtrap

man... its not difficult to parallel... I had power and now dont... its not a problem you get used to it

The Internet Tough Guy

yeah ps is for the old and weak.

the breather thing:
when you remove your ps you have to loop the 2 existing fittings on the rack - 1 was for the high pressure feed line to the pump, 1 was for the rubber return line from the pump. you just put a rubber hose connecting these 2 fittings so fluid doesn't go everywhere, and stays in the rack. now this will work fine, but your arms are moving all the fluid in the rack.

if you cut that loop open, install a tee fitting, and attach a line to the middle fitting, with a container with air / fluid in it (brake resovior, coke bottle, etc) attached to the other end, you're now allowing air into the system also. this is the breather thingy and it makes the wheel easier to turn, because instead of pushing mad fluid, your pushing some fluid and some air.

there is a huge thread in the integra forum about this whole thing - read it first.
and then do it!!!! great mod to do for the money!!!

uranazo

is there a way to temporarily disable the PS without removing to tell if turning the wheel is too difficult... i know ive drivin this chevy S10, old *** bitch wit no PS... it is hard as **** to turn that bitch man... maybe just cuz itsa heavier car... dunno

The Internet Tough Guy

just take the belt off. but it will be 10x easier if you do that ^.

HATCHingMN

I dont mind driving without PS,..but I just love PS on my hatch

turbolshatch

i drive with no ps and you get used to it before you know it you wont even notice you dont have ps

HATCHingMN

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Yeahh..but it suck sometime if you dont have PS!! I know because I used to own a CX before my SI!! But if I plan to ran the 1/4 I would diff. take out my PS!!

Mar_DC2

i've owned 2 civics without PS and one with, and right now i wish i had it back. it's a lot more comfortable, it gives you a more confident feeling while you're driving because your steering wheel wont rip its self out of your hands if you ever lose control of the car, and its a lot easier to maneuver around at slow speeds. unless you need the extra 2-3hp that you're going to get from it, then it's worthless.

Andres-eh2

primetime bump.

and ppl please answer my question. i'm not doubting jwm7 completely but i want to see more input

hybrid93SIvic

never had it so i couldn't tell ya

Andres-eh2

ttt

JDMlyfestyle

Dyno Proven on a B16 4 WHP 3 Ft lbs of torqe. Every little bit adds up to hit that magic number

sohcvtec1995

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there is another reason to get rid of your power steering. to go with the rest.

SleepnCiViC

it gives youa few extra ponies plus if you take all the componets out its nice chunk of weight if your putting your car on a diet

CivHizzle

i hate my friends powersteering on his delsol

and i love not having powersteering in my ek cx

to powersteer not to powersteer

JDMlyfestyle

also imo i think the steering response is better

tangb2023

the myth is it ***** up.. if u plan on putting the ps back on.. air in the pump and or rack.. eventually yes.. mostly happens on domestic steering box... power steering is good but i am swolled so. hehe. go work out .. or, put high *** pressure in your tires.. .. plus u can get used to no ps real quick. i would like ps on luxury cars..

skatescrub

i saw a dyno of no ps on a teg, it gained 5 hp no joke,
sorry i can't find it

whoDAT

i too took out my power steering, but i also replaced my ps steering rack with a manual one. i like it!

Rodney

go ahead, remove the p/s. you will be fine. i know numerous roadracers that have had their p/s removed for 4-5 years, with no ill effects. it is perfect for drag racers or roadracers, but personally, i left mine in. i did slow the p/s ratio down, so it has a bit more feedback, but turning a set of hot sticky 225 hoosiers on a 8.5 inch wheel is not the easiest thing when you do not have p/s. but, then again, some say i am old and weak...

SOHC_MShue

not having power steering is great! I first just took my belt off and could tell a huge difference in the way my car pulled. Definantely gained a couple ponies out of it. The only problem was that the wheel seemed impossible to turn. Now I have taken out the whole system, drained some fluid, and looped the rack like jwn7 had talked about. Now I don't even notice I don't have it unless i'm trying to make a real tight turn in a parking lot. Steering response is also great now. Espescially on the highway. My car is no longer twitchy because of the damn ps. Now I can actually feel what my front wheels are doing it no longer has a false sense which is much better for autox and other racing. I will probably eventually install a breather also, but I just haven't gotten around to it. I have felt how it is with a breather and it feels like you haven't even lost ps at all in parking lots. Its great.