MadVladCivic

Would the following procedure be applicable to our Hondas:


The vid illustrates the separation of the wheel bearing while it is
still on the car. It also shows the removal of the outer race/bearing
***** from the knuckle and subsequent installation of the new
wheel bearing and re-installation of the hub.

The specialized tools required include a large bearing separator,
wheel bearing adapter (kit), snap ring pliers and a Dremel
(or similar) to cut off the inner race from the hub. A large combi
wrench was used to drive the adapter.

MadVladCivic

Actually, here's part 2; it shows the installation of the new
wheel bearing:

tony_2018

Yes its possible.

94eg!

iTrader: (2)

Here is my thread on using that Harbor Freight bearing press kit (Integra/EX Civic knuckle shown). It will sorta work with the knuckle still on the car.

https://honda-tech.com/honda-civic-d...829-a-2984426/

The #1 problem you will have is you won't be able to get the hub off the same way your video above shows. You don't have threaded holes in your hubs to press them out as he did. You will probably have to use a 3-jaw puller to pull the edges of the hub wile it's pushing on the center of the axle snout. This puts all the compression force into the CV shaft bearings (both inner & outer) and all the tension force goes through all 3 of your ball joints. :S

Another option might be a slide-hammer puller, but that will still be hammering your ball joints.

Personally I would rather remove the knuckle and just hammer the hub out because I don't want to risking pressing anything against my CV bearings & ball joints.

Former User

Make video if you decide to give it a try.

94eg!

iTrader: (2)

This explains how to use a slide hammer to remove the hub. All you should have to do before this is remove the axle nut.

tony_2018

sonofabitch..........he's back...........

MadVladCivic

Are not the two holes in the below part useful for threading a bolt associated
w/ a bearing separator?

Honda Civic 99 00 Hub Assembly Front 13" 44600 S04 980 44600 S01 980 | eBay

The depictions at Majestichonda.com and in the service manny also
show the two holes. I guess the main questions are: a) is there
sufficient room to apply a large bearing separator, b) are the two
depicted threaded holes on the hub situated in a manner and of
adequate diameter so as to allow the generation of effective separating
force and c) does the system produce excessive stress on the ball joints?

The drawback would appear to be that 3 holes and even more
would allow more even incremental separation that would only 2.
Not to mention putting less stress on the threads of the holes and bolts.

MadVladCivic

Excellent video! Thanks for your input.

BTW, would use of slide hammer be less stressful to the ball joints
given that the slide hammer exerts an impulsive force (momentary)
vs a constant force applied in the case of the separator?

Although you would still need to remove the outer race/bearing *****
from the knuckle w/ the adapter kit, which would still stress the
b-joints....

Six of one vs half a dozen of the other.

MadVladCivic

Where have you been? Ducking Ebola?

egsleepercivic

This may be stupid but, oh well.

I have the 20 ton HF press, but I can seem to figure out in my head how to setup to press out the hub, I could use the slide hammer but figure there should be a way to get it out with the press.

If anybody has removed the hub with a press please share how you set it up on the press.

94eg!

iTrader: (2)

Those threaded holes are for tiny rotor screws. I imagine any screw you tried to use to press the hub off would simply collapse given the pressures required. It "might" be possible, but I definitely wouldn't try that.

I think the slide hammer would be better, but I personally wouldn't use it on my car.

As for getting the bearing out of the knuckle, you use the harbor freight kit for that. It won't exert any force any part except the face of the knuckle and the inside-inner-race of the bearing. That part is super simple and safe. Same with pushing the new bearing in, as well as pushing the hub back in.

The hardest part of the entire job is getting the outside-inner-race off the hub after you knock it out. I linked an Eric-The-Car-Guy video inside my thread on how to do that.

tony_2018

That kit does the job fairly well if the spindle is off the car. The only thing you need to worry about is getting the hub off. I hammered it off like in the guide that was posted and just used a dremmel on the race.

MadVladCivic

Yaaa, ok. I see that those two threaded holes are for the rotor
retaining screws.

What about using the bearing separator for removing the inner
race from the hub? One of the tech procedures in the FAQ sticky
shows removing that inner race from the hub after it had been
pounded out of the knuckle using the bearing separator.

I'll check out that ETCG vid.

Norlael

when i pressed mine out i made a 6"x6" or so wooden frame from hardwood and use the 2 steel blocks that came with the press. the blocks let the knuckle press into the wood just enough to level it out so the 2 steel blocks kept it even. if you need me to I'll take a picture of it tomorrow.

94eg!

iTrader: (2)

Yeah the bearing separator would be used to pull the race off the hub, along with a 2-jaw puller. Also looking at pictures of these things, it looks like they might have their own threaded holes to use press-screws in them.



I thought I would have to buy one, until I saw the ETCG video. It was so simple, I knew I wouldn't have any trouble. Dremeling did take some time (vs his fast air-powered cut-off wheel), but it was something I already had, and knew I could do with a little time & patience.

lostforawhile

if you have it torn down that far, just remove the knuckle and remove it off the car, use a pitman arm tool to separate the ball joints,

egsleepercivic

If you get a chance i would appreciate it, no rush though

89civicdx

Made a hub puller

tony_2018

Hook me up bro LOL. Thats engenious.

89civicdx

lol thanks I want to sell this one so if anyone wants to buy it as I need to make one for ef civic. I made that one you see to work on the 97 teg knuckle....not sure how much differnt eg knuckles are around the dust shield area. Also you really need an impact to make it work I was using a cordless w7150 1/2" impact it's a beast.

tony_2018

So how did you press the bearing in?

94eg!

iTrader: (2)

Seems silly to purchase that 1-use-tool when you can simply hammer it out with a socket and couple blocks of wood.

That tool would be fun to rig up yourself if you had all those pieces laying around.

tony_2018

OMFG the total backyard mechanic way!!!!! I"m in!!!!!