ThaiRiceRacer

Anything you recommend for a low budget engine swap? B16, B18, B20? or should i just save the money for a turbo?

crxY-49

what motor model ya got??

ThaiRiceRacer

Almost forgot about that.. haha 93 Honda Civic EX Coupe.. D series engine. D16y7 i think.. all i know its a Stock 1993 engine.

kaoss_11

Throw in a b18b and be happy if money is a issue.

crxY-49

I like the d's. Everyone will recommend something different.

wpgcivic

if you have a eg coupe ex your engine is a d16z6, good engine for boost, i say spend a little bit of cash and boost it

4g63tHBmonster

Hey you know what if you have some time and want a low budget 11 sec car thats still drivable throw in a 4g63 or 4g63t out a eclipse, talon, or laser. or if you want the equivalent a b20z is about the same, maybe the only difference is the turbo 4g63 is made for boost were the b20 you'ld have to make it that way. i guess the big question is how much time do you have. sorry if this didnt help at all.

Syndacate

depends hwo much money u have I guess

I have a D16Z6 as well, I'm a fan of the B18's though as I like DOHC more than SOHC

IF you turbo ur D16Z6, you're going to have to upgrade a lot if u want to run more than 6 psi, IMO the B18 is more durable for that kind of pressure

SpydiR

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sshhhh.....

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don't believe this. true you won't be able to boost 30 lbs, but your stock d-series is capable of much more than the average enthusiast realizes.

Tad

um how much money do you have to spend and wut are your goals?

answer those questions and we can tell u wut to get..

4g63tHBmonster

And still be reliable? i had a friend that had a turbo SOCH Zc motor and he went through 3 motors in a year and a half at 5lbs. remember, my swap, though it seems unusuall its all stock. stock motor on stock boost the only mods are the intercooler piping and exhaust this is what i was trying to get at. im not trying to dog the d series motor i was just giving an option.

EGmikeH22

h22,

it can be done for 5k, and its the fastest swap doable by anyone without mad skillz

Syndacate

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sshhhh.....

don't believe this. true you won't be able to boost 30 lbs, but your stock d-series is capable of much more than the average enthusiast realizes.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Iono man, I don't know honda engines well, but I've been trying ot figure out the overall status of my engine (D16Z6) as a good engine or bad engine, what the general concensus on ht says is that it's a good motor for every day, but isn't made to be upgraded - pple on ht seem to say it's cheap and reliable, but dog it when it comes to power...so that's how I came upon that answer, and I still wouldn't boost above 6 psi if it's going to be a daily driver with stock internals like he's running...

mnskateboarder

id get a b18c if i were you

biggnutz123

IF you turbo ur D16Z6, you're going to have to upgrade a lot if u want to run more than 6 psi, IMO the B18 is more durable for that kind of pressure [QUOTE=SpydiR]

sshhhh.....

thats not entierly tru if you go with the edle brock turbo kit you can rune 10-12 psi on a stok motor. it dynos out at abot 210 hp to the wheels

SpydiR

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Iono man, I don't know honda engines well, but I've been trying ot figure out the overall status of my engine (D16Z6) as a good engine or bad engine, what the general concensus on ht says is that it's a good motor for every day, but isn't made to be upgraded - pple on ht seem to say it's cheap and reliable, but dog it when it comes to power...so that's how I came upon that answer, and I still wouldn't boost above 6 psi if it's going to be a daily driver with stock internals like he's running...
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don't listen to these idiots. if it's not b-series or JDM they don't care/know ****. http://www.turbod16.com, http://www.sohchonda.com, http://www.homemadeturbo.com just to name a few. quit suckling the H-T teat and find some info yourself

SpydiR

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by biggnutz123 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">IF you turbo ur D16Z6, you're going to have to upgrade a lot if u want to run more than 6 psi, IMO the B18 is more durable for that kind of pressure [QUOTE=SpydiR]

sshhhh.....

thats not entierly tru if you go with the edle brock turbo kit you can rune 10-12 psi on a stok motor. it dynos out at abot 210 hp to the wheels </TD></TR></TABLE>

don't quote me quoting someone else and make me look like the *******. kthx

ThaiRiceRacer

i want to build this as a car so i can cruise wit a loud sound Actually i really want to use this car as maybe a competition car. Also for the hell of it i would go canyon running wit a couple of my 240sx friends so.. haha i can get a job over the summer once i hit 16 on June.. so money will be 50/50 due to girlfriend expenses.. but the local park is gonna pay me 11.50 an hour since i already got some community service in So summary of all this:

Goals: Cruiser while Sounding Good , At least a 11 second car, Canyon Running if i wish to die and thats prolly all i got planned on this.. I wont be buying another car until i hit 21 or fine a CHEAP and CLEAN Toyota Supra.. haha so yea.

ThaiRiceRacer

bUMP

Tad

ok dude, ur 15,
i'm not trying to hate on u cuz of ur age or anything.
But be realistic.

ur not gonna have an 11sec car, NOR SHOULD YOU HAVE ONE!
start simple, this is the time for you to learn,
and especially learn from your mistakes.

hey when were young we all make mistakes,
I know I made plenty on my first foray into the honda scene.

Course you still wanna have fun,
if you can afford it, just throw a gsr motor in there with some boltons. would be plenty fun.

Or you could just turbo your current setup,
also plenty fun.

both will be fast.

Concentrate on your suspension as well,
especially if you want to go canyon carving.

you're going to want sticky tires,
proper springs/shocks or coilovers.
a nice set of swaybars, and you'll be sittin pretty.

gl

NerveAgent

If you're on a budget, get a b18b with a b16 tranny. If don't care about being legit with smog and BAR then go with b20b/z (stock head) with b16 tranny. Both reliable and quicker than you engine.

4g63tHBmonster

not only is this hilarious but since your only 15 like all of us once were, you need to realize how much work goes into a 11 sec or under car... and many of them are usually are not used to drive you from school and back. my first car was a 91 si hatch with a doch zc and regular bolt ons. what i learned from that, is that number one it takes alot of money, time and know how, and second that if you want a 1/4 mile monster and still want to be able to drive to the mall with your buddies honda motors are missing one big part (bottom end Torque) sorry to bring this up but we know its all true. moral of the story start small and work your way up, know every nut and bolt of your car first.. then step into the ring

jays93eg6

I believe 4g63thbmonster said swap a dsm engine into a honda. From personal experience dont ever do that. DSM means headache in some forien language. I have owned both 1st and 2nd gen eclipses and both were pains in the butt. Go with a b18c1 thats the best route. Good for all motor builds and with so diffrent pistons it will do well turboed as well. Just my 2cents worth though.

4g63tHBmonster

lol true, big headache but worth it.. :-)

wpgcivic

lol over 5 psi he says on a sohc needs upgrades, well then answer me why i ran a td05h all year at 15 psi on a stock z6...or the fact that my bro also ran a stock d16z6 with a sc50 at 13 psi and made 264 wheel, stock z6's are great engines no matter what the tards in this thread say, personal experiance is better than these ppls word