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Old 10-26-2009, 12:25 PM
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I bought this 93 Del Sol Si back in August. It was already lowered when I bought it. All of the Honda Civics and such that I have seen really low their camber is usually negative. I am not really low. My rear camber is positive for some reason. I looked at my suspension components and nothing seems to be bent. Could it be that my rear end it too high or will I need a camber kit to fix the problem?
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It's smart to buy a camber kit when lowering your car. But if the wheels are sticking out at the top isn't called camber though.. Take it up to a cheap muffler shop and ask them if you can use their lift for a few minutes to really find the problem. I did that today, and found out I had a blown exhaust gasket and a leak. Cheap/slow shops are your friends.
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if your car is lowerd, there shouldn't be any positive camber. Something must be bent. look for wrinkled paint/flaking metal on all of the suspension links. if you see any, that part is probably bent
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Default Re: rear camber issue

Originally Posted by Shade93
It's smart to buy a camber kit when lowering your car. But if the wheels are sticking out at the top isn't called camber though.. Take it up to a cheap muffler shop and ask them if you can use their lift for a few minutes to really find the problem. I did that today, and found out I had a blown exhaust gasket and a leak. Cheap/slow shops are your friends.
it is camber buddy its positive camber sounds like you dont know the definition of cambe, its the inward or outward tilt of the top of your tire, see you just got smarter today
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try and get an alignment but you most likely need a camber kit
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thank you for all your input. much appreciated.
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and the alignment is on my list of things to do.
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you can also get aftermarket lower control arms which will take some of the negative camber off the tires but you will most likely still need a camber kit. get one by skunk2 i have it and its great
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camber kit you dont need sk2 ive got some cheaper stuff on ebay and works just fine
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Default Re: rear camber issue

Originally Posted by Shade93
But if the wheels are sticking out at the top isn't called camber though.
Yes it is. That's exactly what positive camber is. Negative camber is when they stick out at the bottom. No offense meant, but please google alignment before making further postings about it.

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There's no reason you should have positive camber unless you have something bent, or the car is raised higher than stock.

Civics have NO camber adjustment stock. They just don't. Therefore, your camber cannot be out of adjustment, and an alignment will not fix it.

You could get a camber kit as everyone said, but that's really a band-aid for the problem. There's some reason why you have positive camber, and the right way to fix it is to figure out why.

Here are your potential reasons:
1. Someone raised the ride height
2. Someone intentionally adjusted the camber out. You can do this with washers in the rear upper control area.
3. You have worn bushings in the rear lower control arms.
4. You have bent control arms... if so, my bet is lower control arms.
5. I guess completely trashed trailing arm bushings could cause this too, maybe. They're very common on Civics.

You should check those out, or have someone do it before you throw a camber kit at it, which will just mask the real problem.

Also, you need to finish up with an alignment. I'd imagine that you probably have a bit of toe out right now if you have positive camber, so you may see some abnormal tire wear as well. Toe is the only adjustment that a Civic has, and you need to do a toe alignment everytime you change ride height or make camber adjustment.
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Default Re: rear camber issue

i do know what camber and toe are. I am a import tech and i have taken courses for automotive. i just wanted some input on what the other issues would cause the positive camber besides ride height. i will look at said components and go from there.
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Default Re: rear camber issue

I apologize in advance if this is too obvious, but...

Is it possible, since you said that the previous owner had already lowered the car, that he may have added a camber kit and not set it up properly? Since camber kits are typically used to counteract negative camber caused by lowering, maybe he over-compensated???

Just a thought...
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Default Re: rear camber issue

car has stock rear suspension. no camber kit. I still have to check for bent compents, just haven't had time.
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check your bushings...

It's much more likely for a few of them to be trashed, IMO.
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Default Re: rear camber issue

thank you for your input vindicator. i will look into it.
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