drkstrs24

I've been talking to some buddies about getting my car lower and they mention that lowered ball joints would help. Is there any benefit for a lowered car to have extended ball joints?

95EG2

NOT EXACTLY SURE WHAT EXTENDED BALL JOINTS ARE(???) BUT... front camber kit will be a plus to have especially if your gonna slam your car

300whpej

ive never heard of lowered or extended ball joints. maybe extended lug studs and new ball joints?

lunareg

no.. just no.. and a camber kit is a waste of money.. lower your car, get an alignment, win..

95EG2

WHAT??? the lower u go the more negative camber u will have and ur gonna *** up ur tires... so i would invest in a $100-$150 front camber kit... if ur gonna get a alignment and just adjust toe and not camber then there really no sense of getting a alignment unless camber is no that far out of spec(which it will be if ur lowering it)

87 SiviK Si

No... Search for the thread about NOT needing camber kits... You will learn a lot...

Also, camber kits SPECIFICALLY say, FOR OFF ROAD USE ONLY. they are not safe for daily driving.

lunareg

there is seriously no point in fixing your camber.. your toe getting thrown off is what eats tires.. but I have a skunk2 front kit that the dude left in my hatch when i bought it if your interested ^^

drkstrs24

Thanks. I know about getting the alignment. Just wasn't sure about ext ball joints. Here is the link of what my boys were talking about. http://www.jhpusa.com/store/pc/viewP...1&idcategory=0 One of my friends had a camber kit on his eg and end up breaking it cuz it of it slamming into the strut tower. So i plan on avoiding that.

confidence

dig around in the suspension and autoX forums. These have been covered in there pretty well. They aren't necessary but they are nice. I plan on getting some, mainly because they cost about as much as replacement OEM balljoints..

hondacurious

depending on how low you go, youre going to want extended ball joints. lowering your car afects your center of gravity and roll center. Exte ball Join move the upper assembly and maintains your lca back to its normal position. If you are ever turning and you head a bump, your wheel wants to jerk a lil that way because the wheel is getting pushed too far up so it can only turn after that. They help alot on highway as well. Much quicker response too. You WILL notice a difference if you get them I did. On the track and off.

honda fossil

what you buddy is talking about is call king pin included angle it is the first angle of 2 to get your S.A.I. angle and yes a camber kit ie: new control arm will help take care of this .

98civdx

LOLWUT

Extended ball joints AKA Roll center adjusters.


Also, You do know this thread is from 2010, right!?

honda fossil

roll center is also yaw angle as you raise and lower a car the control arm move up and down change it's at rest postion witch now mean your ball joint are now at a more extreme angle causing more stress at the joint by sliding the upper joint in and out (to change camber ) you change the angle that is drawn from the lower and upper joints. also to change your roll center you would have to relocate the control arm or get a different knuckle

98civdx

Extended ball joints casue the kunckle to raise which does the same thing to the UCA.

Why in the world would you need to change the kunkcle or the UCA.

Several of my friends run RCA's and only 1 has ever had any issues. That was slamming the UCA into the shock tower due to being to low.
All cars ran stock knuckles and UCA's, except for 1.

honda fossil

to help clear this up extended ball will change roll center and put the ball joint back in centered postion with out changing camber. changing the uca as most camber kit are will allow you to move the upper joint to camber and put the ball joint back in centered postion with out changing roll center. but with doing nothin eveything is out and your joint are at extreme off center allowing your tires to gain advantage ( leaverage) over your suspension causeing brakes and cracks or premeture failure at your joint.