Notices
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000) EG/EH/EJ/EK/EM1 Discussion

post quick! have 20 min!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 06-18-2004, 03:39 PM
  #1  
Thread Starter
 
mnbv's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: USA
Posts: 265
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default post quick! have 20 min!

I found a 96' civic HX 5 speed with 110000 miles. No CD or stereo It has nice paint, red. It has only a few scraches. It is in nice condition, but they are asking 4900, I plan on offering 4000, (kbb for good cond) It is probabley excellent though (4500 at kbb) as the paint and overall condition is truely quite nice. It did not seem too under powered. I need this car for a d/d, not going to mod it at *all*, so it is ok if it is slow. Should I offer 4k cash, and then he will most likely say now way, then should I ask HIM what a fair price is. Then he will say like 4700, then I will tell him blue book and yada yada. Would 4.5k be a good deal for me, or should I go for about 4300 or something. I got about 20 mins before he gets home and I can talk to him in person.
thanks.
Old 06-18-2004, 03:42 PM
  #2  
Electrician
 
Deemeetree's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Astoria, Queens,, Zoo York City, U.S.A.
Posts: 4,709
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Since it has 110000, it's probably time for a new timing belt and water pump. Figure in you'll need new OEM plugs, OEM wires, OEM water pump, OEM timing belt, etc...you'll definitely need to bring that price down. If it's in PERFECT condition, grab it for no more than $4200.
Old 06-18-2004, 03:47 PM
  #3  
Thread Starter
 
mnbv's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: USA
Posts: 265
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (Dimi)

should I go by the kbb value? Like good=4000? I got 7 min
It is not perfect, probably a bit better then good I would say, not much.
above the bumper there is a black plastic piece that is cracked fairly badly, you cant see it unless you get down on all fours though. hmmm, 0 rust. Can't think of anything else
Old 06-18-2004, 03:50 PM
  #4  
 
ShakesTheKlown's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: WA, USA
Posts: 393
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (mnbv)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mnbv &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">should I go by the kbb value? Like good=4000? I got 7 min
</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes. If he has maintenance records then maybe a little more, but if not tell him that you'll have to get timing belt & water pump done within the next 10K miles, and that's 300 easy...
Old 06-18-2004, 03:51 PM
  #5  
 
TrickHonda98's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: If you make me mad, Ill Fling Poo at you
Posts: 732
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (Dimi)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dimi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Since it has 110000, it's probably time for a new timing belt and water pump. Figure in you'll need new OEM plugs, OEM wires, OEM water pump, OEM timing belt, etc...you'll definitely need to bring that price down. If it's in PERFECT condition, grab it for no more than $4200.</TD></TR></TABLE>

do what he just said, offer no more than $4200 for it. if you only have 7 min, you;d better hurry up and just give them $4200 for it or else it is no more.
Old 06-18-2004, 04:43 PM
  #6  
Thread Starter
 
mnbv's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: USA
Posts: 265
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Well, I talked to him and he said 4400 is the lowest he will go. He is a mechanic, asian guy. Well, you know about the car. I have to make a decision fairly quick, he will sell the thing very soon.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

If it's in PERFECT condition, grab it for no more than $4200. </TD></TR></TABLE>

hmmm...
Old 06-18-2004, 05:30 PM
  #7  
clm
Honda-Tech Member
 
clm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Bloomington, IN
Posts: 2,163
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (mnbv)

$4400 seems fair to me. I wouldn't quote KBB or any other blue book value, either, but rather what they tend to go for in your area.
Old 06-18-2004, 05:41 PM
  #8  
Honda-Tech Member
 
The Mista Mike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Louisville, KY, USA
Posts: 1,153
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (clm)

I got my 98 HX with 91k on it just a couple weeks ago for 4600, but it's been lowered, so that might take a bit off. Pretty good condition too.
Old 06-18-2004, 06:42 PM
  #9  
Thread Starter
 
mnbv's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: USA
Posts: 265
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (Mistamike17)

I don't know if I told you yet, but the car was in a minor crash. He said that all that needed replacement was the headlight, and he fixed a crack in the bumper. It looks as good as new now. But the issue is in the carfax. I got the carfax report and it said that it has a Salvage title in big red letters. It says:
Severe problems (major accidents, fire, flood damage, major odometer problems or lemon history) were reported by a Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV) for this 1996 HONDA CIVIC HX (1HGEJ712XTL03xxxx).
The only problem out of these is: It was severely damaged and issued a Salvage title by a Minnesota DMV. Everything else is clean. I don't know what to think of this. I think he may have had to get a salvage title if it was in an crash of any kind, big or small. He said when I buy it (if) it will have a clean title because it was fixed. is this true?
Old 06-18-2004, 06:51 PM
  #10  
be professional
 
Targa250R's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 14,842
Likes: 0
Received 12 Likes on 12 Posts
Default Re: (mnbv)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mnbv &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think he may have had to get a salvage title if it was in an crash of any kind, big or small. He said when I buy it (if) it will have a clean title because it was fixed. is this true?</TD></TR></TABLE>
It would only have a salvage title if it was totalled by the insurance company.

Salvage titles do not just go away, there are certain procedures you must go through. Check with your state's DMV first.

A salvage-titled car is worth significantly less than a normal car, may have problems related to the damage, and also cannot be insured with full coverage AFAIK.
Old 06-18-2004, 06:57 PM
  #11  
Thread Starter
 
mnbv's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: USA
Posts: 265
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (Targa250R)

crappy, I was going to buy it to, damnit. what should I do first?


Modified by mnbv at 4:10 AM 6/19/2004
Old 06-18-2004, 06:59 PM
  #12  
Honda-Tech Member
 
a1320honda's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Spokane, WA, USA
Posts: 3,805
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: (mnbv)

man, a salvage title cuts the price of the car in almost half in most cases. knowing that i dont think its worth that. an accidednt thats been reported on the cars history makes it an "unverifiable" car. you dont know who did the work, how bad the damage was. ive seen 10mph impacts totaly screw up the the alignment on a car. at most i would give 3500. if he doesnt go with, it might not be worth it. you dont know if that car is going to go through tires, or because of misalignment of a mount it could devoled a tranny problem, and once replaced keep devoleping the same proble. i only tell you this cause thats what i went through. the 91 civic i had was a salvage title. 2 months after i had it, boom, tranny went out. $400 and six months later, boom, another. ok, maybe it was a bad tranny that time. so 4 months later, boom, another. just stuff like that you gotta watch out for. hope this help you out man.
Old 06-18-2004, 07:08 PM
  #13  
 
CarsCarsCars's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: seattle, wa, USA
Posts: 67
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (a1320honda)

dude if its salvage title definitely dont get it. There are WAY better fish in the sea.
Old 06-18-2004, 07:20 PM
  #14  
Thread Starter
 
mnbv's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: USA
Posts: 265
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (CarsCarsCars)

I think I may take the risk because of the fact that I don't think that i will have problems with this crash down the line. It was just cosmetic damage that was fixed, and it looks fine now. You know what I mean?
Old 06-18-2004, 07:26 PM
  #15  
 
zad5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Bay Area, CA
Posts: 994
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

ur call man if the car is salvaged its hard to resell it and wutever it says on carfax is true so if it said flood it went through a flood and the guy changed the motor or wutever its honestly ur call but savaged cars are usually a lot cheaper because no one wants it i drive a theft recovered salvaged car. not all salvaged car are totalled like one person posted.
Old 06-18-2004, 07:28 PM
  #16  
Honda-Tech Member
 
97civicdx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: NJ
Posts: 1,366
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: post quick! have 20 min! (mnbv)

I paid $4500 for my 97 DX coupe with 131,000 on it. So far I have replaced the clutch, all fluids, tune up, fuel filter etc. Runs like a charm, no leaks, and ice cold A/C. Also had Rota's on it. I bought it like a year and a half ago. Still gets me 34 MPG on the highway
Old 06-18-2004, 07:49 PM
  #17  
Thread Starter
 
mnbv's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: USA
Posts: 265
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: post quick! have 20 min! (97civicdx)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 97civicdx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I paid $4500 for my 97 DX coupe with 131,000 on it. So far I have replaced the clutch, all fluids, tune up, fuel filter etc. Runs like a charm, no leaks, and ice cold A/C. Also had Rota's on it. I bought it like a year and a half ago. Still gets me 34 MPG on the highway</TD></TR></TABLE>

good to know, it matches up with my car value wise. (price vs value)
He bought this car for himself originaly and fixed it up himself for cheap. He must have gotten a good deal, he bought it from an insurance company. He dident plan on selling it right away, he needs to sell it because he needs a 4 door car because of kids. I think the salvage title was given to it for a not very serious reason like it normaly is. I think I will still get it.

Old 06-18-2004, 09:10 PM
  #18  
Electrician
 
Deemeetree's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Astoria, Queens,, Zoo York City, U.S.A.
Posts: 4,709
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Bro, I paid $3100 for a 1995 Honda Civic DX Sedan 5MT, MINT exterior, interior was ok (woman had a baby), WOMAN driver, 114k. All I had to do was fix a P/S line leak, new brake pads, and the usual maintenence of plugs, wires, timing belt, tensioner, water pump, and thermostat. Look around.
Old 06-18-2004, 09:14 PM
  #19  
Honda-Tech Member
 
antiJDM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: SW WA
Posts: 2,314
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

dude..thats a 95, its a 4dr, and its a dx, this guy is talkin newer body style, coupe, and hx...of course hes gonna pay a good grand more than you...no offense to your car btw just comparing.
Old 06-18-2004, 09:33 PM
  #20  
Thread Starter
 
mnbv's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: USA
Posts: 265
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (2thousandcivic)

Hmmm, I hate second guessing myself. I have to decide by tomorrow morning. I like the car, I just don't know about the price. I am the first person that is looking at it, I know that if I don't get withen a day, it will be gone, it really is a nice car. If I go by the kbb, I am getting about an even deal between me and him. he title just complicates things. arrrgg!!
Old 06-18-2004, 09:35 PM
  #21  
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Fatchance187's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: GAINESville GA
Posts: 574
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Default Re: (mnbv)

I got a 2dr coupe with aftermarket cd player, everything else stock with 90k for 3700 great condition.
Old 06-18-2004, 11:39 PM
  #22  
Honda-Tech Member
 
BatuKing's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Sacramento, CA
Posts: 1,458
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (mnbv)

Oh BTW KBB does not give you values for Salvaged cars.. IMHO I would offer $2500 no more.. Salvaged is hard to resell and is always 40% or more cheaper then a clean title car.

so If your wanting to spend that kind of money you should look around and find one with a clean title.
Old 06-18-2004, 11:54 PM
  #23  
 
ttran's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: saigon, NC
Posts: 43
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (BatuKing)

I paid 5200 for my 98 Dx with 70k about 2 year ago....Clean title , not original paint though....from Ebay...I think it was a very good deal...

Dont rush ...shop around ...Dealer need you ..you dont need them ....and they are def. 40% or more cheaper then a clean title car.
Old 06-19-2004, 03:27 AM
  #24  
Junior Member
 
JDMGSR EG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: DUNDADA
Posts: 379
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: post quick! have 20 min! (mnbv)

try to get it for as cheap as you can
Old 06-19-2004, 03:50 AM
  #25  
Member
 
Goullish's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Pine Mountain, GA, USA
Posts: 1,890
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: post quick! have 20 min! (JDMGSR EG)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMGSR EG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">try to get it for as cheap as you can </TD></TR></TABLE>

Hmmm, I think you just might be on to something.


Quick Reply: post quick! have 20 min!



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 04:37 PM.