Is this a possible spun bearing?
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Is this a possible spun bearing?
Well, I just put in this motor and it worked prefectly fine in the car that it was in before (friends GSR before it got totaled). When I put the motor into my car, it started up but would die after i drove it and came to an idle. THen it would take forever to turn back on. I would crank it for like 2-5 minutes and it would finally turn on.
I went ahead and CHANGED EVERYTHING i could think of (map sensor, wiring harness, replaced lighten ACT flywheel with a stock one, ect.). Then i remembered hearing a "tick tick tick" noise coming from the motor but the ticking would be in a constant cycle of ticking and then it wouold stop and tick again, ect ect. So i researched H-T to see if it was a spun bearing,
Now i just pulled my oil pan and was wiggling on all of the rod caps and they wiggled right and left (I dont think thats suppose to happen). I dunno much about putting together motors. HELP!!! is it a spun bearing?
I went ahead and CHANGED EVERYTHING i could think of (map sensor, wiring harness, replaced lighten ACT flywheel with a stock one, ect.). Then i remembered hearing a "tick tick tick" noise coming from the motor but the ticking would be in a constant cycle of ticking and then it wouold stop and tick again, ect ect. So i researched H-T to see if it was a spun bearing,
Now i just pulled my oil pan and was wiggling on all of the rod caps and they wiggled right and left (I dont think thats suppose to happen). I dunno much about putting together motors. HELP!!! is it a spun bearing?
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Re: Is this a possible spun bearing? (eg cookiemonster)
well last i herd there is a loud knocking sound when you sipn a breing
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Re: Is this a possible spun bearing? (eg cookiemonster)
if u spun a bearing it will make noise and usualy look extremly burnt.
the rod, and crank should look burnt.
hope that helps. i would also find out the torq numbers for the bolts and check them with a torq wrench.
the rod, and crank should look burnt.
hope that helps. i would also find out the torq numbers for the bolts and check them with a torq wrench.
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Re: Is this a possible spun bearing? (eg cookiemonster)
I dunno how much you can see, but if you spun a rod bearing.. there will be scarring from it spinning against the main.
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Re: Is this a possible spun bearing? (eg cookiemonster)
the caps should have play from side to side... if they are too tight then there isnt enough clearance for the bearing to spin.
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Re: Is this a possible spun bearing? (sonnyboi612)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sonnyboi612 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the caps should have play from side to side... if they are too tight then there isnt enough clearance for the bearing to spin.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yes!!!
yes!!!
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wait back up....you heard a ticking noise right...not a tapping noise.
the car didnt start, but while in your friends car it ran fine...correct
how did you come to the conclusion that you spun a bearing
from what your telling us sounds like you have a fuel or ignition problem to me.
the car didnt start, but while in your friends car it ran fine...correct
how did you come to the conclusion that you spun a bearing
from what your telling us sounds like you have a fuel or ignition problem to me.
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Re: Is this a possible spun bearing? (chad)
ok...thanx....guess its not a spun bearing....damn gotta figure out this problem of the car shutting off after i drive it and taking forever to turn back on
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also the ticking is most likely the valves...maybe the motor sat for a while and all the oil drained down to the bottom of the block.once you get the motor on and the oil starts to circulate it will most likely go away
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Re: Is this a possible spun bearing? (Who Said)
yeah the motor was sitting up for about 4 months before i threw it in...but still cant figure out why the car dies and doesnt start back up....it takes forever to start back up and ive DONE EVERYTHING I COULD THINK OF
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Re: Is this a possible spun bearing? (eg cookiemonster)
The ticking noise could be you need to adjust the valves, and for the motor not staring up right away i would check your ignition switch, and or loose ground
nice quote " who said "
nice quote " who said "
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Re: Is this a possible spun bearing? (1slowhatchie)
<<<--- Thinks its electrical. (Ground, Distributor?)
BTW, when it actually Runs, how long does it run? Does it run good when it is running?
BTW, when it actually Runs, how long does it run? Does it run good when it is running?
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Re: Is this a possible spun bearing? (D.CACO)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by D.CACO »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><<<--- Thinks its electrical. (Ground, Distributor?)
BTW, when it actually Runs, how long does it run? Does it run good when it is running?</TD></TR></TABLE>
It runs if i keep heeltoe it....other than that when i come to an idle it just dies out.....ive changed the distri. (had an Si one on there and switched it to the GSR one , same problem) And ive chnaged the wiring harness. how any grounds are there? tranny and valve cover correct?
BTW, when it actually Runs, how long does it run? Does it run good when it is running?</TD></TR></TABLE>
It runs if i keep heeltoe it....other than that when i come to an idle it just dies out.....ive changed the distri. (had an Si one on there and switched it to the GSR one , same problem) And ive chnaged the wiring harness. how any grounds are there? tranny and valve cover correct?
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Re: Is this a possible spun bearing? (sonnyboi612)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sonnyboi612 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the caps should have play from side to side... if they are too tight then there isnt enough clearance for the bearing to spin.</TD></TR></TABLE>
wtf? Do you realize how small of a oil clearance that is???
It should NOT, under any circumstances, "wiggle" from side to side....this usually indicates a spun or burnt bearing.
Pull the cap off real quick and inspect the bearings- if they look good, plastigauge the clearance and see if it's within spec
edit- I mis understood what you talked about....Yes, the rod will slide between the counterweights, but should NOT move up or down lengthwise with the rod
Modified by Emerika at 11:30 PM 4/14/2004
wtf? Do you realize how small of a oil clearance that is???
It should NOT, under any circumstances, "wiggle" from side to side....this usually indicates a spun or burnt bearing.
Pull the cap off real quick and inspect the bearings- if they look good, plastigauge the clearance and see if it's within spec
edit- I mis understood what you talked about....Yes, the rod will slide between the counterweights, but should NOT move up or down lengthwise with the rod
Modified by Emerika at 11:30 PM 4/14/2004
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Frosty18 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hrrm. So who is right? Chad or Emerika. I'm torn. </TD></TR></TABLE>
woops, my bad....depends on what he means.
The rod SHOULD move along parrallel with the rod journal on the crank, YES
it should NOT however, what I mean in my post, move up or down....
crank goes like this: -------------
rod will move slightly: < -- >
but should NOT move ^/v
make sense now??
woops, my bad....depends on what he means.
The rod SHOULD move along parrallel with the rod journal on the crank, YES
it should NOT however, what I mean in my post, move up or down....
crank goes like this: -------------
rod will move slightly: < -- >
but should NOT move ^/v
make sense now??
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b-powa »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have ticking noise after a long drive.. i know it is just my exaust.. i dont know why..please explain anyone?</TD></TR></TABLE>
It's different than metal cooling?
It's different than metal cooling?
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Re: (Emerika)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Emerika »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
crank goes like this: -------------
rod will move slightly: < -- >
but should NOT move ^/v
make sense now??</TD></TR></TABLE>
your the man....now can u help me see why my car wont start after it turns off??? ....im really doubting its a spun bearing anymore....it only moves a hair left and right and doesnt move up or down....the motor was running prefect before i pulled it out
crank goes like this: -------------
rod will move slightly: < -- >
but should NOT move ^/v
make sense now??</TD></TR></TABLE>
your the man....now can u help me see why my car wont start after it turns off??? ....im really doubting its a spun bearing anymore....it only moves a hair left and right and doesnt move up or down....the motor was running prefect before i pulled it out