Possible to make a B16B pass emissions on ca?
01-01-2005, 07:27 PM
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Possible to make a B16B pass emissions on ca?
Since this engine is only available in JDM models, I was wondering if its possible to make this pass emissions, if it is, can you please tell me how, I did a search and saw some methods, but I dont know if they apply to this engine, thank you for your help.
01-01-2005, 07:29 PM
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Re: Possible to make a B16B pass emissions on ca? (Luscious Lee)
Look up Spade (H-T member) he started the whole JDM engines can pass. And you know what, they can. Look up BAR.
Mainly it has to be same year motor or newer then the car.
Mainly it has to be same year motor or newer then the car.
01-01-2005, 07:51 PM
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Re: Possible to make a B16B pass emissions on ca? (Luserkid)
Really? and thats that? Just get a 95+ B16B in my civic and it will pass no problem?
01-01-2005, 09:18 PM
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Re: Possible to make a B16B pass emissions on ca? (ej0513)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ej0513 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">umm.. the B16B wont pass in the US.. because the B16B was never sold here..</TD></TR></TABLE>
Correct.
Unless the Ref that you went to was willing to throw some of the rules out the window, it's not legal.
Correct.
Unless the Ref that you went to was willing to throw some of the rules out the window, it's not legal.
01-01-2005, 09:28 PM
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Re: Possible to make a B16B pass emissions on ca? (rodrez.)
<----------Glad I don't live in Cali, seems like all this smog **** is a huge problem there and they are strict about it.
01-01-2005, 09:31 PM
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Re: Possible to make a B16B pass emissions on ca? (R33CIVIC)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by R33CIVIC »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><----------Glad I don't live in Cali, seems like all this smog **** is a huge problem there and they are strict about it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
For good reason. The air quality in Los Angelas is very poor, and only getting worse. The strict guidelines that are currently used in California, will probably start to spread East over time.
For good reason. The air quality in Los Angelas is very poor, and only getting worse. The strict guidelines that are currently used in California, will probably start to spread East over time.
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01-01-2005, 09:32 PM
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Re: Possible to make a B16B pass emissions on ca? (rodrez.)
thats not true, you just need to hook up every thing to u.s spec's .i can ref my b16 in my 91 hb si as long as i convert it to delsol spec's(i.e) 4 wire o2 sensor running obd-1 instead of the original 0 and and a del sol ecu instead of my pr3 ecu.
01-01-2005, 09:36 PM
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Re: Possible to make a B16B pass emissions on ca? (PHOBIA)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PHOBIA »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thats not true, you just need to hook up every thing to u.s spec's .i can ref my b16 in my 91 hb si as long as i convert it to delsol spec's(i.e) 4 wire o2 sensor running obd-1 instead of the original 0 and and a del sol ecu instead of my pr3 ecu.</TD></TR></TABLE>
What model Del Sol in the US came with a B16B Civic Type R motor?
If it's not available in the US, it's not able to be certified.
The B16 obviously was available in the Del Sol Vtec and Civic Si, but this is a different motor.
What model Del Sol in the US came with a B16B Civic Type R motor?
If it's not available in the US, it's not able to be certified.
The B16 obviously was available in the Del Sol Vtec and Civic Si, but this is a different motor.
01-01-2005, 10:04 PM
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oh im sorry i always skim read every thingi didnt notice what b16 motor i thought he ment the 99-00 civic si. i would just gind of the b in the last part of the stamp and say its something else"if all else fails" its not like its part of the #'s you need to check if its stolen.but again that would be a last priority to me.
01-01-2005, 10:23 PM
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Re: Possible to make a B16B pass emissions on ca?
So it must be a USDM engine? I read on some other thread that it didnt matter if the engine was UDSM or JDM
01-01-2005, 10:23 PM
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Re: Possible to make a B16B pass emissions on ca? (ej0513)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ej0513 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">umm.. the B16B wont pass in the US.. because the B16B was never sold here..</TD></TR></TABLE>
Oh sorry. I knew of the B20 and such, i didnt know that CTR was too. Learning alot of new things tonight.
Oh sorry. I knew of the B20 and such, i didnt know that CTR was too. Learning alot of new things tonight.
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Re: Possible to make a B16B pass emissions on ca? (Luscious Lee)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Luscious Lee »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So it must be a USDM engine? I read on some other thread that it didnt matter if the engine was UDSM or JDM</TD></TR></TABLE>
No, it doesn't have to be a USDM motor, but there must be an equivalent available in US sold vehicles. For example, you can certify a JDM B16a, because there's an equivalent available in the Del Sol and Si. Since the B16b comes in the CTR, there's no equivalent for in the US, since we don't get that model here.
No, it doesn't have to be a USDM motor, but there must be an equivalent available in US sold vehicles. For example, you can certify a JDM B16a, because there's an equivalent available in the Del Sol and Si. Since the B16b comes in the CTR, there's no equivalent for in the US, since we don't get that model here.
01-01-2005, 10:56 PM
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also, if you really want to go through with certifying your motor.. in the FAQ section of this forum there is a link on how to vertify your JDM motor.
01-03-2005, 02:18 AM
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Thanks again guys, Im probably going to end up with a b16a since its in my budget and it will give me what I need for what I'm doing with it...
01-03-2005, 02:49 AM
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Re: (Luscious Lee)
P.S. out of curiosity, would a 96 B18C TypeR pass? And work on my car? Since 95 - 96 have differant body styles, and my car is a 95. Im pretty sure they offer a B18C-R in the US.
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They did not offer b18c type r in the 92-95 years. All of the ITR's are obdII. You have to run the emissions from the year of vehicle that the motor is coming out of.
I've seen a couple of obdII jdm motors that got BAR stickers in obdI cars... So I think it really does matter which Ref you go to. All of the itr motors are 96+. I know for sure you can get a jdm gsr OBDI motor and it can easily be bard.
I've seen a couple of obdII jdm motors that got BAR stickers in obdI cars... So I think it really does matter which Ref you go to. All of the itr motors are 96+. I know for sure you can get a jdm gsr OBDI motor and it can easily be bard.
01-03-2005, 09:34 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fishnfst »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I've seen a couple of obdII jdm motors that got BAR stickers in obdI cars... So I think it really does matter which Ref you go to. All of the itr motors are 96+. I know for sure you can get a jdm gsr OBDI motor and it can easily be bard. </TD></TR></TABLE>
you can use an OBD2 motor and pass it as an OBD1 motor IF there was an obd1 equivalent motor, e.g. you can have a 97 GSR motor, converted to obd 1 and run it in a 93 civic (telling the ref it's a 95 obd1 motor). however, the b18c5 was never available in the states as an obd1 motor, so if you install it into a obd1 car, you need to add the additional wires for the obd2 ecu, including the diagnostic port.
I've seen a couple of obdII jdm motors that got BAR stickers in obdI cars... So I think it really does matter which Ref you go to. All of the itr motors are 96+. I know for sure you can get a jdm gsr OBDI motor and it can easily be bard. </TD></TR></TABLE>
you can use an OBD2 motor and pass it as an OBD1 motor IF there was an obd1 equivalent motor, e.g. you can have a 97 GSR motor, converted to obd 1 and run it in a 93 civic (telling the ref it's a 95 obd1 motor). however, the b18c5 was never available in the states as an obd1 motor, so if you install it into a obd1 car, you need to add the additional wires for the obd2 ecu, including the diagnostic port.
01-08-2005, 02:38 PM
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Re: Possible to make a B16B pass emissions on ca? (Luscious Lee)
anything can pass as long as it pass the sniffer.
if the ref is cool they don't care..
a ford engine in a crx can pass
if the ref is cool they don't care..
a ford engine in a crx can pass
01-08-2005, 02:42 PM
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Re: Possible to make a B16B pass emissions on ca? (bossman032)
the b16b can pass smog as long as u get everything needed for that motor such as hardess and cat and all that stuff needs to be for the b16b.
01-08-2005, 02:46 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bossman032 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">anything can pass as long as it pass the sniffer.
if the ref is cool they don't care..
a ford engine in a crx can pass </TD></TR></TABLE>
there is no such thing as a "cool" ref. they're at the top of the auto inspection food chain. you could have a 351 windsor in a CRX if it was built car a car (not a truck), is newer than the car its going into, and has all the smog equipment on it
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdm_spoonEG »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the b16b can pass smog as long as u get everything needed for that motor such as hardess and cat and all that stuff needs to be for the b16b. </TD></TR></TABLE>
negatory. did you read any of the posts in this thread? the b16b is not an acceptable replacement engine as no car in the US was ever sold with anything like the b16b.
if the ref is cool they don't care..
a ford engine in a crx can pass
</TD></TR></TABLE>there is no such thing as a "cool" ref. they're at the top of the auto inspection food chain. you could have a 351 windsor in a CRX if it was built car a car (not a truck), is newer than the car its going into, and has all the smog equipment on it
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdm_spoonEG »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the b16b can pass smog as long as u get everything needed for that motor such as hardess and cat and all that stuff needs to be for the b16b. </TD></TR></TABLE>
negatory. did you read any of the posts in this thread? the b16b is not an acceptable replacement engine as no car in the US was ever sold with anything like the b16b.
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Re: Possible to make a B16B pass emissions on ca? (dantastic)
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negatory. did you read any of the posts in this thread? the b16b is not an acceptable replacement engine as no car in the US was ever sold with anything like the b16b.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Hey Dantastic, ever feel like you have to type the same thing over and over again
negatory. did you read any of the posts in this thread? the b16b is not an acceptable replacement engine as no car in the US was ever sold with anything like the b16b.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Hey Dantastic, ever feel like you have to type the same thing over and over again
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Re: Possible to make a B16B pass emissions on ca? (dantastic)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dantastic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
there is no such thing as a "cool" ref. they're at the top of the auto inspection food chain. you could have a 351 windsor in a CRX if it was built car a car (not a truck), is newer than the car its going into, and has all the smog equipment on it
negatory. did you read any of the posts in this thread? the b16b is not an acceptable replacement engine as no car in the US was ever sold with anything like the b16b.</TD></TR></TABLE>
negative on your quote. I had a b16b I passed inspections. It can be done soo it can pass emissions. What I failed on is the ASM Emissions otherwise I would have had a sticker. It depends on the ref like I said numerious times trust me I been to ref soo many fucken times like 13 times I told the ref the motor is a del sol motor he said OK. I even confirmed with the local station boss So it can be done. Just make sure your motor passes the ASM test and you should be fine. I seen fucken obd0 motors pass. Depends on the REF 
there is no such thing as a "cool" ref. they're at the top of the auto inspection food chain. you could have a 351 windsor in a CRX if it was built car a car (not a truck), is newer than the car its going into, and has all the smog equipment on it
negatory. did you read any of the posts in this thread? the b16b is not an acceptable replacement engine as no car in the US was ever sold with anything like the b16b.</TD></TR></TABLE>
negative on your quote. I had a b16b I passed inspections.
It can be done soo it can pass emissions. What I failed on is the ASM Emissions otherwise I would have had a sticker. It depends on the ref like I said numerious times trust me I been to ref soo many fucken times like 13 times I told the ref the motor is a del sol motor he said OK. I even confirmed with the local station boss So it can be done. Just make sure your motor passes the ASM test and you should be fine. I seen fucken obd0 motors pass. Depends on the REF
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