97civic94gsxr

I met up with this guy who i've bought some parts off before to get an iacv and he has another new civic at his house with a poormans type-r in it he says that he'll sell me the motor for $1500 and if i give him the gs-r motor that i have in my car now he'll swap it all out with the Si tranny i have sitting around, i have a itr tranny in there now but its not mine. Now the vtec doesnt work on the motor thats in my car now and i was wondering if this was a good deal.

1sickEJ

whats wrong with your vtec id save the money and fix/ build the gsr with the money you were gonna spend onthe R you dont know what that motor has been though

97civic94gsxr

I dont know whats wrong with the vtec its a gsr motor with a b16 head in my car now but the other motor has itr connecting rods pistons and cams which would be basically what i would have to spend to get all of that and i think the motor in my car is kinda ate up anyways i got kinda robbed when i bought the car.

slacks

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1sickEJ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">whats wrong with your vtec id save the money and fix/ build the gsr with the money you were gonna spend onthe R you dont know what that motor has been though</TD></TR></TABLE>
x2

it could burn oil or not even run for all you know. just stick with yours and save the money.
that's just my .02

97civic94gsxr

Ok i've found out some more information about this motor apparently its an LS block w/ B16 head with ITR connecting rods, pistons, cams, valve springs, retainers, ITR intake manifold and a dc sports header i already have a full exhaust and when i put the motor in i'm going to use a test pipe in place of the cat (no strict inspections here in kansas) any opinions welcome

97civic94gsxr

I forgot to mention the motor i'm wanting to buy only has 1200 miles on it. And the gsr-r motor i have now has god knows how many miles its vtec doesnt work (i bought it that way and the guy said he'd help me fix it 3 months later still not working &lt;^&gt; (-_-) ) and it burns oil like a mother f* it does have a b16 head on it though.

B18CivicEJ8

LS-VTEC is not a poorman's type r. You said you have a GSR w/ a B16 head. That is a poorman's type r.

Agent_EM1

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18CivicEJ8 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">LS-VTEC is not a poorman's type r. You said you have a GSR w/ a B16 head. That is a poorman's type r.</TD></TR></TABLE> Exactly what I was thinking. Just get your sh*t fixed. He's only got 1200 on his motor and he wants to get rid of it so fast? Sounds fishy.... just my $.02

B18CivicEJ8

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Agent_EM1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Exactly what I was thinking. Just get your sh*t fixed. He's only got 1200 on his motor and he wants to get rid of it so fast? Sounds fishy.... just my $.02</TD></TR></TABLE>

Werd! And he wants to trade it for a motor that burns oil w/o VTEC? That's cause he knows what you have is better than what he has. He will end up fixing your poorman's type-r and it'll be better than your LS-VTEC. On top of that, he'll do it w/ your money since you're willing to give him $1500. Crappy deal IMO. Keep your motor, use your $1500 to fix it. Take it to a reliable honda mechanic. Do you have any CELs? Have you pulled your CELs to see why VTEC isn't engaging?

97civic94gsxr

The guy i am buying the motor from bought a civic hatch with the motor in it because he knew the guy who owned and built the car at his shop he got a deal that was pretty much too good to pass up. he was already wanting to get a different motor i think an h22 and he was wanting to sell this one basically to cover the money he's short on the other motor he will put in the hatch.

97civic94gsxr

Yes my cel is on it has an obd2 to obd1 jumper on it. its been a pretty f'n cold winter here in kansas ( i got the car in nov) and i havent really wanted to mess with it because i dont have a garage...i could use my parents but theirs isnt heated or anything and it has terrible lighting with the jumper on there i cant use the obdII port anymore correct ?

SOHCFTW

I would suggest you putting that 1500 into your gsr right now. =]

B18CivicEJ8

You can still check for CELs using this method:

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/1901557

Once you find out what it is, then we can help you try to resolve your issue. The reason VTEC doesn't work is because of the CEL. It throws your ECU into a "limp" mode which prevents VTEC from engaging. If we get rid of the CEL, VTEC will engage. Then you just have to solve your oil burning issue. New ITR pistons and rods and you'll be very close to having an ITR.

JDM TEGG

You should check your vtec pressure switch..

wearyfurball

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 97civic94gsxr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok i've found out some more information about this motor apparently its an LS block w/ B16 head with ITR connecting rods, pistons, cams, valve springs, retainers, ITR intake manifold and a dc sports header i already have a full exhaust and when i put the motor in i'm going to use a test pipe in place of the cat (no strict inspections here in kansas) any opinions welcome </TD></TR></TABLE>

Dont waste your time or money..... LS-Vtec isnt all that great, plus for it to run right it would have had to been built right.... Most of the time they arent..... Stay with what you got and just fix your problem.... I dont think your problem will cost you $1500.... So buy the other stuff you want and fix it......

97civic94gsxr

Well from what i was told the motor was built by a professional who owns his own shop so i would hope that it was put together properly because it just drove from florida to kansas with no problems. Now i have yet to drive the civic that the motor is in now but i plan on doing this before i buy this motor to see how well it runs/performs.

wearyfurball

still wouldnt do it

95delsolz6

Everyone is telling you that what you have is way better than what he is trying to sell you. Your problem could be fixed for way less than $1500. Deals are always tempting, but read through everyone's comments and then do what you want.

From what's been said, you currently have a GSR block with a B16 head (aka Poor Man's Type R) and you are thinking about trading it for an LS block with a b16 head (aka LS-Vtec) with ITR internals. Think about it.

97civic94gsxr

Yeah i mean the 2 main reasons i want to get this is because i want vtec without having to be without a car for a week or more because i work full time and my explorer isnt tagged and sitting in my parents garage. And i dont think my motor is in the best shape it has a leak around the valve cover as well as it burns oil i have changed the oil twice since i've got the car and its not as clean as i'd like it to be i didnt flush any oil through the motor or run an engine flush though. From what the guy i bought car from said i'm sure he ran it pretty hard whereas this other motor is basically brand new. And yeah my motor now burns a lot of oil not just a little probably a quart every couple hundred miles so i just got my oil changed at valvoline so they'll fill it up for free. i make sure to check it often btw

95delsolz6

The 2 main reasons why you want the new engine:
1) You want vtec, now
2) Your explorer isnt tagged
You say you have an oil leak from the valve cover. Find out where it is coming from and replace the valve cover gasket if you have to, or the appropriate gasket for where the leak is.
You have a CEL, &lt;https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/1901557&gt;. Find out which one it is and then ask a question regarding that code.

97civic94gsxr

My first reason is because i cant be without transportion i forgot to metion the explorer has a blown head gasket thats why its not tagged. I dont live with my parents and i'm not going to ask them for a ride they're 62 and 56 and i dont want to bother them with my bull sh*t . My second reason is because the motor that i have now burns a ton of oil and it leaks it too and it smoked really bad one time but hasnt done it since. i'll try to check my cel tomorrow when i get off work and then post what it is if i can get the vtec to work on my car i'll see if i can just buy the itr internals off him and have all new gaskets put in my motor when he swaps them

SpoolinB16A

Keep urs and fix less head ache can you drive his car and see if anything is up wit his motor?

b16a3delsol

Just trade for the motor. Their right your probably about to get shafted but you keep making excuses why you motor isnt good enough. Just trade for it and make yourself happy. Make a grownup decision please you have the better motor.