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Old 01-15-2006, 02:43 PM
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Heya folks,

Maybe you can help me out here. At the moment I am running a stock B18c motor in my EM1, The tank on refils takes approximatly 40-45 litres and I calculate returns around 28.8 mpg which is motorway and round tonw driving ...

Firstly anybody else know if this is normal ? It works out approximatly 250 miles per tank and I am running 97 octane fuel.

Secondly, what can I do to improvet his if anything ? I could do with getting a little extra bang per buck, and at the moment this is really killing me !

Let me know what you think folks,

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Problemo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Heya folks,

Maybe you can help me out here. At the moment I am running a stock B18c motor in my EM1, The tank on refils takes approximatly 40-45 litres and I calculate returns around 28.8 mpg which is motorway and round tonw driving ...

Firstly anybody else know if this is normal ? It works out approximatly 250 miles per tank and I am running 97 octane fuel.

Secondly, what can I do to improvet his if anything ? I could do with getting a little extra bang per buck, and at the moment this is really killing me !

Let me know what you think folks,

- Prob</TD></TR></TABLE>

where the hell you get 97 octane?..well, you don't have to run that high, 93 is good enough. Do rotors and cap change, it'll probably help a little. In my em1, i get about the same the same mpg as you.
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what ECU are you running
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I get 22 mpg on my b18c mostly mashing around town.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Problemo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Heya folks,

Maybe you can help me out here. At the moment I am running a stock B18c motor in my EM1, The tank on refils takes approximatly 40-45 litres and I calculate returns around 28.8 mpg which is motorway and round tonw driving ...

Firstly anybody else know if this is normal ? It works out approximatly 250 miles per tank and I am running 97 octane fuel.

Secondly, what can I do to improvet his if anything ? I could do with getting a little extra bang per buck, and at the moment this is really killing me !

Let me know what you think folks,

- Prob</TD></TR></TABLE>

28.8 mpg is horrible to you? I filled up last night and got 25.6 mpg with a stock b16a EM1.
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I live in the UK so 97 octane is quite common around here. I am running a JDM ecu. Surely I should be getting better fuel economy with a higher octane fuel ?

I shall maybe look at plugs and dizzy if things carry on.

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Default Re: Poor Fuel Economy, EM1 With JDM B18c Swap ? (Problemo)

your problem is probably with your final drive ratio, although a gsr is a little longer than a b16. my hatch with a b16 gets terrible mileage but i have LSD too. good luck on that one
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Default Re: Poor Fuel Economy, EM1 With JDM B18c Swap ? (Problemo)

Get a timing light and check your ignition timing. You should have it set between 16-17 degrees advance for better fuel economy. Also check to make sure you're not running too rich, and get an FPR if necessary.

Get a new air filter, new O2 sensor, unclog your cat, etc etc.. basic tune-up stuff.
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I'd be happy as a pig in **** with that octane and gas mileage. Don't go spending money on new distributor and plugs, you most likely don't need them.
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One more thing, how much is gas over there per litre?
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lol only 28.8 on a b18... i get 22 on a d16 and i drive it like a granny!
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Default Re: Poor Fuel Economy, EM1 With JDM B18c Swap ? (Problemo)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Problemo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Surely I should be getting better fuel economy with a higher octane fuel ?</TD></TR></TABLE>

No, you surely wouldn't.

28+ mpg is decent for a B18C.

Aside from a general tune-up (cap, rotor, plugs, wires, air filter, fuel filter, set valve clearance, set timing, can of fuel injector cleaner), how many miles are on the motor? O2 sensors do have a service interval - 75k-90k miles. Have you checked your tire pressure and alignment lately?

But don't run higher octane fuel than what is needed - that's just pissing money away.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Problemo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I live in the UK so 97 octane is quite common around here. I am running a JDM ecu. Surely I should be getting better fuel economy with a higher octane fuel ?

I shall maybe look at plugs and dizzy if things carry on.

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higher octane doesn't get you better fuel economy dude...or else everyone over here would be running premium. Like the other person said, make sure you're not running too rich, a b16 doesn't need that high of a octane, just get whats recommended over there
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My garage recommended I run 97 octane as JDM engines are (apparently) designed to use the higher octane (my friends imprezza was at least, it melted a piston on standard 95 octane stuff)

More reading coming up.

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what the heck your running 97 and others are getting 93!!! wtf!! man i wish i had either in california... i can only get up to 91 whack!! i dont think you need 97 but iif its at a good price why not.. lucky asses on the east with 93 and the far east.. get 97. cali is whack! oh yea and as for your milage... dude thats about average im running the same motor and i get about the same maybe even less. . ecu can dump more fuel so look into that


note to self need to move
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hey man... ill tell u what.. ill trade u cars.. okay 28 is bitchen im getting 18-20 maybe u can drive my car for a week anyday.. i fill up every 2 days
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