TedR719

I'm trying to gather info on polyurethane suspension bushings. I have a project coupe that I'm building that will be the official project car of my website. I need a little more info on this subject. I know it is important for a vehicle with age to replace them if you plan on going all out and with 170k miles the stock ones might be shot.


The will be more towards the second stage of the suspension built up. The will be the first stage of the build up.

Stage 1 / Supension 1.0

-Ground Control Coilovers
-Ground Control Top Hat
-Koni Yellows
-Skunk2 Camber Kit

The second stage will of the suspension will complete the suspension and I'm thinking of added the bushings to the list.

For those who have it what are the pros and cons. Are they alot more rough for daily driving? How much better did the car response after installing?

moto27cm

Love them. I have the master kit and the T/A bushings. They squeek sometimes, but its not a big deal to me. Im sure you will get a bunch of opinions and even more e-drama in this thread.

ap1amor

I would recommend SPC Camber kit over Skunk2. From what I've read, the ES bushing master kit is worth the money. Car handling is improved. Takes 'forever' to install bushings. Red ones squeek more than black ones, since black set is graphite impregnated. If you plan to AutoX I hear the Polyurethane bushings aren't ideal for AutoX since they heat up quickly. Go with Prothane if you're gonna go all out.

TedR719

Good info guys keep it coming. Why SPC over the Skunk2?

moto27cm

I should have been more specific. I have the red bushings and I autoX on them. No problems that I can see.

For the 6th gen Civics, the SPC front upper arm offers both camber and caster adjustment. They dont offer that kit for the 5th gens. Skunk makes a nice kit, but I would do some more research on them and familiarize yourself with the potential problems. The roadrace forum is a good place to start.

TedR719

moto27cm - great I will take some of the questions over to that forum as well.

moto27cm

Well, maybe you should just look around. Be sure to use the search.

Most of the problems have already been covered, and most have solutions posted.

TedR719

yeah i defintaly use the seach option but came up with very limited info. Maybe I will try a few other word searches

moto27cm

This one has most of the probs/solutions:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=838684

owen_the_soyboy

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Briman2021

Well, I havent put poly bushings in my honda, but uninstalling bushings is absolute hell if you dont have access to a machine shop with a big hydraulic press.

You usually have to burn them out with a torch, not fun.

Anyway, on my other car, they helped tighten everything up a whole hell of a lot since the old bushings were 15 years and 128k miles old. I dunno if it will affect yours as much, but i figure it will be similar since you have more miles, but less age.

Definately recommend it if you can stand being on a stiffer suspension, daily driving isnt a real big deal unless you get the stiffest ones you can find.

Also, the squeaking hasnt been a major issue on any of the poly bushing equipped cars I have ridden in, but it is there sometimes, just keep a bottle of silicone spray handy.

Good luck!!

TedR719

From what I've been hearing that some of these kits will squeek a bit, does anyone have a kit that they recommend?

Mr Hammond

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Hmmm. I'd like to know your thoughts on why the Prothane master kit is superior to the ES kit if one is going "all out".

The ES master kit is awesome. I have the black ones on my car just because. I don't particular care for the RTA bushings. Go with brand new OEM stock or Mugen hard rubber ones.

tilt

http://honda.hybrids.jp/tech/howtos/bushings.shtml
http://overboost.com/story.asp?id=426
http://www.hotrod.com/projectb....html
http://www.performanceforum.co....html

99blackcivicSi

I installed a energy suspension master kit on a customers car, very nice stuff indeed the car dosn't run as of right now but i think it will be a DRASTIC improvement over the stock stuff which has been in there since 1989

TedR719

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http://overboost.com/story.asp?id=426
http://www.hotrod.com/projectb....html
http://www.performanceforum.co....html</TD></TR></TABLE>

95DXPhiladeph

I have GC coilovers, tokico illumina shocks, hyperflex bushing kit, ingalls camber kit, and i have all around GSR trailing arms, brakes, etc. I have 15" rotas, I am dropped 2.5 all around, and I absolutely love the ride. Even without power steering I have insane control over the car. I am much more comfortable around corners, and overall, the bushings really help with wheel hop. It's DEFINETLY worth looking into.

TedR719

Just looks like the install is a PITA but I think I will eventually order a set, any other setups with the bushings out there? Let get some more feedback on it