c1civic

ok here is my car, 92 cx, with full suspension and heliums wrapped in ziex.
jdm h22
quaife lsd
place racing axles
intake
2.5 inch exhuast
test pipe
egr not hooked up and secondaries didnt come with control module, so they are tied always open

here is the best time slip i kept

rt .785
60 2.279
330 6.532
1/8 9.921
mph 73.89
1000 12.797
1/4 15.243
mph 91.96

i dont know whats wrong, please help me, im kinda embarresed, hoping for much better time

my friend has a 97 coupe, jdm i/e thats it, with stock rims.. and he pulls 13.7 at 101

PLEASE HELP

sohcvtec1995

you throwing any codes?

RTE117

Yes I believe he is, his ECU is also kinda fucky. I've drove the car, it felt much stronger when I drove it, I was hoping he'd pull mid 13s. I know the torque difference can be tricky to judge from my B-Series, but damn, I expected a whole lot more.

Turbogixxer

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Does the car feel slower after you drive it for a bit?

Your 60' are not that good, but that MPH is really low. Do a compression test and a leakdown test. My friends with a EK coupe full weight (~2600) was hitting those times with ******* 60'.

SPOON DC2

Damn. good luck with that

A L I A S

yea my buddy's jdm h22 eg wouldnt get anything under 14.5..and we had all expected him to be well into the 13's

c1civic

only ecu code im throwin is egr
i failed nox on my emissions test alot, so i think i may have bad carbon buildup, could that be the prob
thinkin about takin off the head and getting a cleaning, as well as cleaning the pistons off. im just pissed, something is wrong
also could not haveing the black box under the intake manifold hurt me, i believe it controls teh butterflies, which i have always open

c1civic

so could the carbo be the prob... also what trap speed was your freind runnin with 14.5

fastwanabe

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this is your problem right there you have them tied SHUT. release them because the spring will always have them open not closed. I've run with my secondaries open all the time and it runs great. Your choking your motor.

c1civic

so i should jsut take off teh tie i have holdin the mechanism, because it is clsoed not open..correct?

B18C5-EH2

Also EGR cleaning doesn't require you to pull the head. There are acess ports on the intake manifold that you drill out and you reach in them and clean them out, then fill the holes with a Genuine Honda part called an EGR port plug.

Also is your EGR even hooked up correctly?

As far as your times go, they are definately well below the average, which you already know.

I agree about getting the engine tested in terms of compression, leakdown, etc. There is something terribly wrong with your set-up.

c1civic

well untied the spring for teh secondaries, and it does feel faster. hopefully its not all in my head. i know my egr is not hooked up right, so i may get one of those plugs, do u hapeen to know how much they are

RhdDc2R

What ecu are you running in the car? Because that can have alot to do with the problem.

c1civic

got it straightened out, best was a 14.2, i still think the carbon buildup is hurtin. feels quicker now, i had the damn butterflies clsoed, not open

dogfood

Your timing could be off, do you have a noticeable lack of power?

H23AHybridEG

Do you have a different fuel pump? My buddy did an H-swap into his 1992 CX and used the stock fuel pump. He ran a 16.3 !

c1civic

walbro 190

fastwanabe

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FERIOkid

my friend hit 12.4 in his et hatch with a mildly built(=fpr,fr,i/h/e, mnor tunning and a lil more) H22

jerbear!

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by c1civic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">only ecu code im throwin is egr
i failed nox on my emissions test alot, so i think i may have bad carbon buildup, could that be the prob
thinkin about takin off the head and getting a cleaning, as well as cleaning the pistons off. im just pissed, something is wrong
also could not haveing the black box under the intake manifold hurt me, i believe it controls teh butterflies, which i have always open</TD></TR></TABLE>

time for some seafoam!

hair_rice

hope u figure that **** out...check those codes if there are any...somethin must not be hooked up right

B18C5-EH2

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...and what exactly did that contribute to the topic at hand?

c1civic

i already used sea foam, didnt seem like it did much

B18C5-EH2

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Maybe I missed it, but have you checked:

Cam timing
Ignition timing
Compression
Valve adjustment (or lack thereof)

Until you take our suggestions to heart and try them, any other "miracle in a bottle" remedies will be pointless.

Have you checked any of those? Sorry if I missed where you had...

turbotime

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Cam timing
Ignition timing
Compression
Valve adjustment (or lack thereof)
</TD></TR></TABLE>

thats what i would check, you should def be faster then 14.2!