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Old 07-31-2004, 12:14 AM
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i have a timing gun w/ adjustable degrees ***.....and when i checked on my ignition timing, this is all i see:

i only see a red and a white line on the pulley...


shouldn't there be more colored marks on the pulley? does my timing look right to you? i'm confused...which colored marks on the pulley are you suppose to be looking at?

this is a b16aII. thanks.
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red= at idle
white= when motor spining at 1500 rpm and timing set at specs
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Default Re: please check out my ignition timing alignment (handa)

The white mark is TDC. And the red mark is 16 deg before TDC.

Make sure to jump your service connector while checking your timing. (the blue plug you use to check ecu codes) And be sure your engine is idling where it's supposed to with no load.

B16A2 : 16 deg +/- 2 deg BTDC
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Default Re: please check out my ignition timing alignment (Jesse 99EK)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jesse 99EK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The white mark is TDC. And the red mark is 16 deg before TDC.

Make sure to jump your service connector while checking your timing. (the blue plug you use to check ecu codes) And be sure your engine is idling where it's supposed to with no load.

B16A2 : 16 deg +/- 2 deg BTDC </TD></TR></TABLE>



You use the red mark when doing a timing belt to take the slack out of the left hand side.
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Do you have to jump the connector while adjusting your timing? Why is this?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dimi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Do you have to jump the connector while adjusting your timing? Why is this?</TD></TR></TABLE>

bump for a good question...
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good question indeed, bump
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The fuel/timing maps on the ecu alter when the spark is delivered. If you jumper the ecu, it won't be altering the spark (the gun is reading) while you are mechanically changing the actual timing.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dimi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Do you have to jump the connector while adjusting your timing? Why is this?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Does not one soul understand why?
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Default Re: please check out my ignition timing alignment (Jesse 99EK)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jesse 99EK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The white mark is TDC. And the red mark is 16 deg before TDC.

Make sure to jump your service connector while checking your timing. (the blue plug you use to check ecu codes) And be sure your engine is idling where it's supposed to with no load.

B16A2 : 16 deg +/- 2 deg BTDC </TD></TR></TABLE>

i jumped my service connector, turn the car on, let it warm up until the rpm reaches around 800, and did the ignition timing.

am i suppose to align the WHITE mark to the pointer?
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Default Re: please check out my ignition timing alignment (handa)

basicaly you jump the conector to diasable the ecu timming advance so you make sure you are seting the base timming.
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Does anyone know how much the service plug is? Paper clips keep popping out.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mct121 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Does not one soul understand why?</TD></TR></TABLE>

If I understood why, I wouldn't be asking this question.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by realblag &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The fuel/timing maps on the ecu alter when the spark is delivered. If you jumper the ecu, it won't be altering the spark (the gun is reading) while you are mechanically changing the actual timing.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I see now. Maybe that's the reason I can't get my timing within spec after I changed my timing belt. Damn, that must be the issue. My timing is off, probably by a few degrees and with 87 octane, I ping.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jago &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">basicaly you jump the conector to diasable the ecu timming advance so you make sure you are seting the base timming.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Indeed. Let me do this while I'm setting my timing to spec. I didn't know I had to do this nor have I ever seen a mechanic do this aswell.

Thanks all and sorry for hijacking the thread with my question.
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Default Re: please check out my ignition timing alignment (handa)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by handa &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

i jumped my service connector, turn the car on, let it warm up until the rpm reaches around 800, and did the ignition timing.

am i suppose to align the WHITE mark to the pointer?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Red mark. It indicates 16 deg BTDC.
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