Is placing a turbo w/ an automatic tranny a waist of time? How about supercharger?
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Is placing a turbo w/ an automatic tranny a waist of time? How about supercharger?
I am presently the owner of a 2000 Civic EX. And w/ the exception of a couple engine modifications (eg. AEM cold air-intake, DK headers) the rest of the 1.6 liter 1590 cc 4 banger is stock. Yeah, I know... not much bang. Not to mention that it's also an automatic transmission. However, after having driven to and from Las Vegas (236 mi. one way) I can't deny the potential that this little feller has shown me; and 'cause of that am now considering taking it to the next level. How far I'm not quite sure. Still, one of my concerns is whether I should convert him over to stick, or if dropping a turbo on an automatic transmission is worth doing. Or even a supercharger for that matter. Any and all info. on this matter, or any matter concerning there of, is very much and greatly appreciated.
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Re: Is placing a turbo w/ an automatic tranny a waist of time? How about supercharger? (gregoryjames
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gtz »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yes
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gregoryjames »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I am presently the owner of a 2000 Civic EX. And w/ the exception of a couple engine modifications (eg. AEM cold air-intake, DK headers) the rest of the 1.6 liter 1590 cc 4 banger is stock. Yeah, I know... not much bang. Not to mention that it's also an automatic transmission. However, after having driven to and from Las Vegas (236 mi. one way) I can't deny the potential that this little feller has shown me; and 'cause of that am now considering taking it to the next level. How far I'm not quite sure. Still, one of my concerns is whether I should convert him over to stick, or if dropping a turbo on an automatic transmission is worth doing. Or even a supercharger for that matter. Any and all info. on this matter, or any matter concerning there of, is very much and greatly appreciated.</TD></TR></TABLE>
what do think? is it worth it? how far do you want to take the performance of your car?
i once knew someone back in the day that had a 4dr. ex auto turbo. it was nice, fast, and he really didn't have to worry about shifting. if this is your thing then shoot for it, personally i hate auto's, but that's my opinion.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gregoryjames »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I am presently the owner of a 2000 Civic EX. And w/ the exception of a couple engine modifications (eg. AEM cold air-intake, DK headers) the rest of the 1.6 liter 1590 cc 4 banger is stock. Yeah, I know... not much bang. Not to mention that it's also an automatic transmission. However, after having driven to and from Las Vegas (236 mi. one way) I can't deny the potential that this little feller has shown me; and 'cause of that am now considering taking it to the next level. How far I'm not quite sure. Still, one of my concerns is whether I should convert him over to stick, or if dropping a turbo on an automatic transmission is worth doing. Or even a supercharger for that matter. Any and all info. on this matter, or any matter concerning there of, is very much and greatly appreciated.</TD></TR></TABLE>
what do think? is it worth it? how far do you want to take the performance of your car?
i once knew someone back in the day that had a 4dr. ex auto turbo. it was nice, fast, and he really didn't have to worry about shifting. if this is your thing then shoot for it, personally i hate auto's, but that's my opinion.
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Re: Is placing a turbo w/ an automatic tranny a waist of time? How about supercharger? (gregoryjames
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by philosofy1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
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lmmfao...
anyways..i've seen this video of a crew, some dude had a yellow EF with a glass top i believe...cant remember if it was a CRX or HATCH....anyway...he had this crazy *** all motor setup and it was automatic...it was a fast EF hittin 12s...i dont see why it wouldnt work...people will tell u the tranny will give up quick but of course....to have a 12 sec auto car is gonna take $$$...
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lmmfao...
anyways..i've seen this video of a crew, some dude had a yellow EF with a glass top i believe...cant remember if it was a CRX or HATCH....anyway...he had this crazy *** all motor setup and it was automatic...it was a fast EF hittin 12s...i dont see why it wouldnt work...people will tell u the tranny will give up quick but of course....to have a 12 sec auto car is gonna take $$$...
Modified by B18CivicEH2 at 2:39 PM 3/16/2007
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by antiricer »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Isnt it a good idea to boost with an automatic, because you wont lose power when shifting, or thats what I heard, someone corect me if I'm wrong</TD></TR></TABLE>
not sure if that's true or not, but it really isn't a bad idea.
not sure if that's true or not, but it really isn't a bad idea.
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Re: (philosofy1)
auto's hold boost better but imports always perform better being manuals as are auto trans suck.. and domestic's manuals suck as there auto's kick ***.. so i cant tell u your trans will give out but honda's manual trans are stronger
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it should work...
ive seen automatic civic with turbo and they said its alright...
then again...it depends on how big your turbo is...
you might not get the full potential of the turbo..
before it spools up...your tranny probably gonna shift to the next gear.. and your RPM will drop...
id say use a small turbo...if your tryin to get fast on a quarter mile...
but...in the long run....if youre running 80 miles an hr...you should be good...i dont know if its gonna work on the take off as good as the manual tranny...
or, you can help it out by spraying nitrous...
correct me if im wrong........
ive seen automatic civic with turbo and they said its alright...
then again...it depends on how big your turbo is...
you might not get the full potential of the turbo..
before it spools up...your tranny probably gonna shift to the next gear.. and your RPM will drop...
id say use a small turbo...if your tryin to get fast on a quarter mile...
but...in the long run....if youre running 80 miles an hr...you should be good...i dont know if its gonna work on the take off as good as the manual tranny...
or, you can help it out by spraying nitrous...
correct me if im wrong........
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It honestly depends on the strength and type of automatic transmission.
Most Honda transmissions have massive shifting lag, and don't run high up enough in the RPM's to hold boost for very long, and then you fall out of it instantly when you shift (unless you've got the tinniest turbo ever).
Most Honda transmissions have massive shifting lag, and don't run high up enough in the RPM's to hold boost for very long, and then you fall out of it instantly when you shift (unless you've got the tinniest turbo ever).
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honda auto's suck when you try to put too much power through them.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by haveaniceday »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Sell the car and buy a stick. Seriously.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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It really depends on how much power your looking for. If your looking for anything under 250hp then youll be fine. But if your looking for more then 250hp then your going to need to look into a stronger torque converter as those will crap out. Look into level10 torque converters.
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i wonder who started the automatics are the suxors arguemnt.....................................w/e gearing is better in a manual
i know first hand when i first got my car y friend would run circles in his lx sedan ek against my ej1 coupe i had more power!
i know first hand when i first got my car y friend would run circles in his lx sedan ek against my ej1 coupe i had more power!
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jdm 2.0 b18c5..hehehehhehe
b18c5 is 1.8...unless its bored out to 2.0
b18c5 is USDM
b18c2 is the jdm
b18c1 is the integra gsr (usdm)
b18c is the jdm....
am i right???
ke98248.....
i think a boosted DOHC 1.6 is good...
i dont know what u sayin
b18c5 is 1.8...unless its bored out to 2.0
b18c5 is USDM
b18c2 is the jdm
b18c1 is the integra gsr (usdm)
b18c is the jdm....
am i right???
ke98248.....
i think a boosted DOHC 1.6 is good...
i dont know what u sayin
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ARMED »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">jdm 2.0 b18c5..hehehehhehe
b18c5 is 1.8...unless its bored out to 2.0
b18c5 is USDM
b18c2 is the jdm
b18c1 is the integra gsr (usdm)
b18c is the jdm....
am i right???
ke98248.....
i think a boosted DOHC 1.6 is good...
i dont know what u sayin
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huh???what are u talkin about?
b18c5 is 1.8...unless its bored out to 2.0
b18c5 is USDM
b18c2 is the jdm
b18c1 is the integra gsr (usdm)
b18c is the jdm....
am i right???
ke98248.....
i think a boosted DOHC 1.6 is good...
i dont know what u sayin
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huh???what are u talkin about?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CXtypeR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how do you get auto trannies to shift at redline?</TD></TR></TABLE>
By putting it in a lower gear (D3, D2, or D1)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ARMED »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">jdm 2.0 b18c5..hehehehhehe
b18c5 is 1.8...unless its bored out to 2.0
b18c5 is USDM
b18c2 is the jdm
b18c1 is the integra gsr (usdm)
b18c is the jdm....
am i right???
ke98248.....
i think a boosted DOHC 1.6 is good...
i dont know what u sayin
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B18C is both the "jdm gsr" (SIR-G) and jdm Type-R
plus it isn't a DOHC he's talking about... it's an EX, it's SOHC.
By putting it in a lower gear (D3, D2, or D1)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ARMED »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">jdm 2.0 b18c5..hehehehhehe
b18c5 is 1.8...unless its bored out to 2.0
b18c5 is USDM
b18c2 is the jdm
b18c1 is the integra gsr (usdm)
b18c is the jdm....
am i right???
ke98248.....
i think a boosted DOHC 1.6 is good...
i dont know what u sayin
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B18C is both the "jdm gsr" (SIR-G) and jdm Type-R
plus it isn't a DOHC he's talking about... it's an EX, it's SOHC.
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Re: (antiricer)
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Toyota Supras, Nissan 300ZX's, things like that, yes, it can be beneficial.
A Honda Civic EX, no.
Toyota Supras, Nissan 300ZX's, things like that, yes, it can be beneficial.
A Honda Civic EX, no.
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If you have money for a supercharger then i would advise you swap the tranny and turbo it cause thats potent and is still less than a jackson supercharger
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Re: (satinsol)
actually you can get auto 's to shift redline pretty easily, just shift choke
you can do it in d4 just slam the gas and it will just keep going up until it just barely hits redline then shifts
you can do it in d4 just slam the gas and it will just keep going up until it just barely hits redline then shifts
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To do a turbo kit right and 0% non half *** you will spend over $4000.
you can believe me or
Listen to the handful of young cheap *** kids that will tell you otherwise. Its your car, treat it right or not.
you can believe me or
Listen to the handful of young cheap *** kids that will tell you otherwise. Its your car, treat it right or not.