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Old 02-21-2006, 10:34 AM
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My friend has a delsol SiR II
and now he is asking me: I got P30 obd-2 ecu on my car, should i still look for a P28?

I didnt know what to tell him, so I said its better if I creat a topic here and ask the question because you guys helped me a lot through my questions.
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re-state your question.
del sol's come with p30
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then explain the p06 in my friends del sol.
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or the p28 i had in mine
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well actually i dont care really. its just an ecu. it doesnt really matter what ecu you have when it gets chipped. oh and sooner or later you'll want to chip it.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by chrisfromda909 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">then explain the p06 in my friends del sol.</TD></TR></TABLE>

p28 p06 p08 etc. they can be used in the same car. just depends how the ecu is setup. i loved my Supra, so did the 3 DAMN engines it went through.
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so the p28 is better than the p30??
can somebody mention the good things which p28 has and p30 doesnt !?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ...civic... &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My friend has a delsol SiR II
and now he is asking me: I got P30 obd-2 ecu on my car, should i still look for a P28?

I didnt know what to tell him, so I said its better if I creat a topic here and ask the question because you guys helped me a lot through my questions. </TD></TR></TABLE>

So your friend has a real right hand drive Del sol Sir II? If so then it has a B16A and it's run by a P30.

P06 runs the D15B7 engine, which also happens to be in the base model Del Sol.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nello a. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">re-state your question.
del sol's come with p30</TD></TR></TABLE>

VTEC or B16A2 equipped Del Sol's come with a OBD1 P30. (Talking USDM here)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ...civic... &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so the p28 is better than the p30??
can somebody mention the good things which p28 has and p30 doesnt !?</TD></TR></TABLE>

USDM P28 and P30's are equally good ECU's. P30 would be better on an OBD1 B16 motor for obvious reasons, but if your looking to chip it, either one works well. JDM P30's can't be chipped, due to the short ECU box.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by chrisfromda909 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">then explain the p06 in my friends del sol.</TD></TR></TABLE>

He has a base Del Sol. D15B7 motor, which uses a P06.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by e gee two &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">or the p28 i had in mine
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Del Sol Si I believe? SOHC VTEC D16Z6, which uses a P28.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by THC1107 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

p28 p06 p08 etc. they can be used in the same car. just depends how the ecu is setup. i loved my Supra, so did the 3 DAMN engines it went through.</TD></TR></TABLE>

USDM Del Sol
P28 = D16Z6 - Si trim
P06 = D15B7 - S (base) trim
P30 = B16A2 - VTEC trim




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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fast88std &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
So your friend has a real right hand drive Del sol Sir II? If so then it has a B16A and it's run by a P30.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yep its a real delsol SiR II but LHD thats why he his asking if his ecu is fine or should he get the p28
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDM_Ej &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

VTEC or B16A3 equipped Del Sol's come with a OBD1 P30. (Talking USDM here)

USDM P28 and P30's are equally good ECU's. P30 would be better on an OBD1 B16 motor for obvious reasons, but if your looking to chip it, either one works well. JDM P30's can't be chipped, due to the short ECU box.

He has a base Del Sol. D15B7 motor, which uses a P06.

Del Sol Si I believe? SOHC VTEC D16Z6, which uses a P28.

USDM Del Sol
P28 = D16Z6 - Si trim
P06 = D15B7 - S (base) trim
P30 = B16A2 - VTEC trim

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Thnx for sharing your knowledge bro
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the sohc vtec del sols came with the p28

since his has a b16 get a chipped p28 for it.. he wont benifit from a stock one

edit.. sorry didnt see the previous post about the p28 in the sohc vtec sols
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CustomX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">since his has a b16 get a chipped p28 for it.. not put a stock on in it
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what about his oem p30 ecu that came with the B16 in the car from the dealer?
it wont do him any good as much as the p28?
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a stock p28 is designed for a sohc motor.. stock for stock he would be better off with the p30
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and how about a P28 for a D16y8 (sohc vtec)
that will work fine woudnt it ?
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oh yea.. HUGE increase over stock

and im not 100% sure on the differnces between the sohc and dohc ecus...

i just dont see why a sohc ecu (not chipped) would make any power increase on a dohc motor.. i think it would just decrease power.. maybe somone can clear it up??
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDM_Ej &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">VTEC or B16A3 equipped Del Sol's come with a OBD1 P30. (Talking USDM here)

USDM P28 and P30's are equally good ECU's. P30 would be better on an OBD1 B16 motor for obvious reasons, but if your looking to chip it, either one works well. JDM P30's can't be chipped, due to the short ECU box.

He has a base Del Sol. D15B7 motor, which uses a P06.

Del Sol Si I believe? SOHC VTEC D16Z6, which uses a P28.

USDM Del Sol
P28 = D16Z6 - Si trim
P06 = D15B7 - S (base) trim
P30 = B16A2 - VTEC trim</TD></TR></TABLE>


ownage i already knew all of this though being a delsol owner
just felt left out so i put this seeing what nello a would say <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by e gee two &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">or the p28 i had in mine</TD></TR></TABLE>

i love my eg2!!!!
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CustomX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">oh yea.. HUGE increase over stock

and im not 100% sure on the differnces between the sohc and dohc ecus...

i just dont see why a sohc ecu (not chipped) would make any power increase on a dohc motor.. i think it would just decrease power.. maybe somone can clear it up??</TD></TR></TABLE>

okay look stock p28 with a dohc is going to run crappy as heck redline shorter, running lean... man its programed for a sohc it will kill the meaning of dohc. it will still run fine but why run it if you have a perfectly good ecu meant for the b16?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by e gee two &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it doesnt really matter what ecu you have when it gets chipped. oh and sooner or later you'll want to chip it. </TD></TR></TABLE>

sorry had to quote myself i didnt feel like typing it over. chip p28 is a whole lot better but like it says you can chip any ecu to do anything you want. so it really doesnt matter what kind of ecu you have as long as its not automatic. well you can stiill chip a auto ecu into a 5 speed there are certain things you have to modify... take to long to describe. pretty much run the p30 that the motor came with if you're going to run a sohc ecu such as the p28 or the p06 chip it or else dont use it at all.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1303076

there's a good place to get one for a good price. thats where i got mine from
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Thnx for the info everybody
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Keep the P30 stock and Get a p28 that you can get "chipped" when you have the car tuned to match your parts combo. Use a system like hondata for flexibility. Either way have two ecu's and keep the P30 stock if you every it need it or just sell it to me! Good Luck
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