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Old 10-20-2005, 08:55 AM
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I just had a new HG and valve stem seals fitted cause the car was smoking at high rpms (5k+).
The smoke is still there and the garage reckon the car is overfuelling.
Why would a stock D16 with I/H/E overfuel?? - this is at WOT so I thought 02 sensor does not come into play. Fuel pressure is fine. When I pull off the air filter and the sensor from it, it seems to run a bit better (more power although still not perfect)
I have done an auto>manual conversion and retained auto ecu, only CEL is auto trans lockup.
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I assume the smoke is black since they are calling it excesse fuel. true? or is it another colour?
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possible the ecu is throughing your car into limp mode cause of the CEL, and is over fueling it to be safe. that was my first thought.
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a stock d16 now comes with I/H/E and tranny swaps, **** i have to sell mine a pick up on of those newer stock d's
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Default Re: overfuelling (tuck'd98)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tuck’d98 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">a stock d16 now comes with I/H/E and tranny swaps, **** i have to sell mine a pick up on of those newer stock d's</TD></TR></TABLE>
dick much? when did he say that it came with that? he said he had an otherwise stock dseries. maybe you should take a reading comprehension class before you try to make someone look bad on the internet.
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from what i remember stock is how it came from the factory and last i check'd d16's didnt come with I/H/E and tranny swapped, asshat

stock =nothing

I/H/E=modded

modded=not stock

you=idiot
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by drewthomas14 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dick much? when did he say that it came with that? he said he had an otherwise stock dseries. maybe you should take a reading comprehension class before you try to make someone look bad on the internet. </TD></TR></TABLE>
that means it's stock other than the i/h/e. as in No other modifications other than what's listed. as in , no port and polish, no upgraded valvetrain, etc.
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well if i were to by a stock civic and open the hood and sw intake header and exhaust its not stock
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no offense but does it really make any difference on the problem? I doubt it. Lets get back to helping this guy out
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Thanks for the inputs guys...even if not very constructive. :D

OK so the HEAD/BLOCK are stock, and the ECU is the stocker for this car (in auto form) P2E

Would the ECU go into limp mode with the CEL I have (auto trans lockup) - i have never heard this before...

More worrying is that I have the original manual ECU from the car I took the engine/box out of, but the car wont start with it in (however it does not throw a CEL at all)

Smoke is black, with a hint of blue now and again (bore wash?) - the garage assures me compression is good, and pistons are good since they checked when they swapped the HG. They are now saying "oh its your wiring on the auto&gt;manual conversion causing the problem"

Im gonna try changing the MAP sensor, I dont have a spare ECT sensor around though.

If I dont get it fixed soon I am ripping it apart and starting again with a Z6. This engine is 62k, has just had $700 spent on it, and it still sucks. I should have stayed auto, my car was fine then!

Thanks and bump for any more info
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Bump for replacing the MAP sensor, feels a little better on the butt dyno but still smoking 5krpm+

Is it possible they could have missed the rings being shot? I am seeing a bit more blue in this smoke than I would like to.
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you do a leak down test yet
Old 10-22-2005, 08:14 AM
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tuck they did a leakdown and compression test last week and fitted new valve stem oil seals and a head gasket. They checked the pistons and said they were fine....

I just fitted a B&M FPR and reducing the fuel pressure down to around 28psi idle 32psi when revving seems to have helped A LOT. Now I dont have lots of smoke.....but still a little when I rev to 6krpm at standstill and watch the exhaust....(could just be old stuff burning off I gues)
Performance feels so-so but it is definetly smoother at the top end and more willing to rev up there....progress at last!
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